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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/14/2008 5:45:18 AM
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On top of all this I have experienced major weight gain from the wrong medications I have been taking. The new doctor is getting me off of them but its been like 40lbs in the past two years or so. Thats a lot if you ask me. It only depresses me more. I can empathize with that. I've been gaining weight like crazy, lately, and it really affects my attitude toward myself.
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I wonder if I am ever going to be whole again the way I was BEFORE my first episode. I think one of the important things in mental health is to accept where we are at the moment. The "good old days" may never return and, truthfully, if we're dealing with the baggage surrounding our mental illnesses, when we are better, things should be different than before we were aware of our mental health problems. If we're always living in the past of how things used to be, we can't enjoy what we do have today, and we might miss a lot of good things about tomorrow because we're so busy looking at the past. I do hope you get some answers.
Edited to fix the hug.
Firstly, regarding the weight gain.... and yes, I appreciate that this may be difficult for some to hear. I'm not judging anyone or criticising anyone by my words, but sometimes it helps to be objective about things and not resigned to them. Medication can cause weight gain. But sometimes it's made worse by us not taking steps with regard to our own health to at least help it.
We need to be careful about what we eat and the exercise that we do and consider whether we're doing an appropriate amount of exercise. We should be doing some form of exercise most days of the week whether we are healthy or not. Again, we should also watch what we eat, whether we are healthy or not.
Naturally, this is all easier said than done. We may not achieve what we're supposed to, but we can at least try. I know that some of the meds I'm on have caused me to gain weight. I also know that some of the conditions I have have caused me to gain weight. I also know that by being just a little more careful about what I eat and doing some exercise, I can, at the very least maintain my weight ~ though I can lose it.
I've been working towards getting back to the gym. I believe that it proved very helpful in the past and will be even more helpful in the future. It does take time and money to sort things out though. Hopefully I should be able to do something at the start of next year.
all.consuming.fire (I'm in the UK too) ~ I'm glad that your current doctor wants to see all your records. It sounds like he's not basing his diagnosis on one event. Sometimes it can be hard to agree with a diagnosis, but that can often be because we don't want all the problems that seem to be associated with it. Just because someone has a certain diagnosis doesn't mean that it will have a major impact on our lives. The degree of the condition and our outlook will influence that. I believe that once a diagnosis is made, it is easier for us to know what we have to face and we are more able to learn how to deal with how the condition affects us.
For instance. While I'm not happy with my having bipolar, I do believe that it is an accurate one. I also believe that the meds I'm on are helping control it. In addition to this, I've had some therapy to help me come to terms with issues in my life that have affected me and learnt better how to deal with myself when things aren't good.
Being diagnosed with anything is never easy. This week, my doctor confirmed that I have athritis in my neck/shoulder and my thumbs. Doesn't sound a lot really does it and there are no physical symptoms, I can even move my thumbs pretty well. But turning a page in a book is painful for me most of the time. It's frustrating and I've spent most of the week thinking about what I can't do, rather than what I can do. I know that I can type pretty well still, and that when I get back to the gym, it will help my condition further.
And finally, for being as we were before we were diagnosed... Over the years, I've realised that I don't really want to be the person I was then. I wasn't 'whole'. I was just kinda temporarily stuck together and it was when I fell apart that God took the pieces and put caring and supportive people in my life so that the pieces would be put back together again, better than ever before, because God was the bonding agent.
Doesn't mean that I'm not still 'fragile'. I am. But I recognise it far better now than I did before and can make allowances for it and so am able to do far more than I ever could before.
Not sure if that's made any sense. I am limited in my time online right now (as Maggie has said) and so am probably not thinking as much as I usually try to do.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/14/2008 8:40:59 AM
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MyCatSmokey, I am praising the Lord with you! Really fantastic. I think I said it in another thread, but you encogurage me with your testimony. Really do =). By the way I sat last night and read this ENTIRE thread. It took me a couple of hours..ahahah. I am awaiting responses for a job so I get really bored.
The records are on their way becasue I had to fax a release form and my new doctor should see them shortyly after. I have been praying and praying about this and really I do fine each day with Gods help. I dont feel those heavy heavy lows anymore and most days my mood is stable. I have noticed that in this thread people have said that there is a chemical imbalance type of depression and there is a depression that is situational. I dont know where I fit in. I just had major depression two times in my life in the past 7 years. They both lasted about 2-3 weeks and then I was fine. It this normal? At both of these times, my life was crazy and the environment was hectic. I really dont know what to think. Do I have the major depression and God is just helping me each day so that I feel better. I hope the new doctor sheds light on this situation. He is not Christian though. The times I have taken to pray about all this, God is just saying to LEAN MORE INTO HIM AND RELY ON HIM. So I have been. I want to see what the doctor says.
If I am honest with myself what depresses me most is my walk with God the past 7 years. Its been up and down, and I have not always put Him first. Is that the root of my depression? Is the reason that I was not depressed before 21 becasue I had a strong walk with the Lord? Or is my depression really chemical and I really do need to take the medication? I really dont know. I feel like whether the new doctor gives me new medication or not. I STILL always need to put Him first and rely on Him whatever the outcome is going to be at this point. Does that make sense?
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/14/2008 9:28:18 AM
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I've been alcohol-free for 15 years this October, so I'm praising God!
That is encouraging. I hope to be able to say that someday.
Thanks for your prayers all and I am also praying for you guys.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/14/2008 12:36:13 PM
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Consuming Fire, I think Major Depression, but definition is longer than 2-3 weeks. My guess is that you've been depressed for more than those 2-3 weeks each time, but the worst of it probably was only that long.
We don't need to have a Christian doctor to treat our mental health. My psychiatrist isn't a Christian and she's been awesome.
Even if your depression is situational, the meds can help pull us out of the worst of it so we are able to look at things more objectively. Often we need the drugs before any therapy will be effective.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/14/2008 12:40:19 PM
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For whatever reason this full moon seems to be pretty bad.
I've already dealt with 2 suicide threats in the community.
Hang in there folks, things will get better.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/14/2008 8:53:53 PM
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Limulus,
Hey I dont really know your situations (except for this thread) but I will be praying about your struggles with alcohol. My mom (who is a non-christian) was delivered from being an alcholic for many many years. I prayed many years for her to be set free, becasue she was ruining her life. Well the Lord finally did it for her and I know He can do it for you. I really have the faith for this becasue I have seen it accomplished for a non-Chrisitan. How much more does He love you and want you to be free from this habit? I really have a heart for this type of stuff. My mom is a competely different person know. Now I am just praying for her salvation.
God Bless and Keep You. =)
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/14/2008 10:14:41 PM
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Thanks for sharing that, consuming fire. It's always good to hear how someone has succeeded at something so difficult.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/14/2008 10:20:44 PM
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Limulus,
Hey I dont really know your situations (except for this thread) but I will be praying about your struggles with alcohol. My mom (who is a non-christian) was delivered from being an alcholic for many many years. I prayed many years for her to be set free, becasue she was ruining her life. Well the Lord finally did it for her and I know He can do it for you. I really have the faith for this becasue I have seen it accomplished for a non-Chrisitan. How much more does He love you and want you to be free from this habit? I really have a heart for this type of stuff. My mom is a competely different person know. Now I am just praying for her salvation.
God Bless and Keep You. =)
Thanks for the encouragement.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/15/2008 2:12:43 AM
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Fritz, nice to have you stop by.
Agapetos, nice to see you too. I agree with Roberta, your post was enouraging to me too.
I finally saw my pdoc again for the first time in months. My current anxiety level is definitely my PTSD and definitely keying off things at home. I told her what my husband had been doing and she flat out told me that I need to reconsider when I'll place emergency calls or just flat out walk out the door because "if I'd told her I was doing those things to him, it would have invoked mandatory reporting laws because it IS abuse". So she gave me some referrals for services (like legal aid and shelters) and is going to write the letter I need to hopefully become my own payee for my SSDI. And she actually liked what my neuro has done with my meds. Go figure. Hopefully I'll be able to get out soon - and safely.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/15/2008 7:21:23 AM
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I have noticed that in this thread people have said that there is a chemical imbalance type of depression and there is a depression that is situational. I dont know where I fit in. I just had major depression two times in my life in the past 7 years. They both lasted about 2-3 weeks and then I was fine. It this normal? At both of these times, my life was crazy and the environment was hectic. I really dont know what to think. Do I have the major depression and God is just helping me each day so that I feel better. There are many kinds of depression. I recall you've studied some psychology ~ while this has benefits, it's also got it's disadvantages. Don't worry too much about what you know from your studies but talk with your doctor and listen to what he has to say.
People can react to situations they are thrown into ~ a family member dying is a major one, moving house, new job, marriage, Christmas all bring their own stresses and strains.
You say that you've been depressed 2 times in your live, for a several weeks and both are due to circumstances in your life. I don't know what the circumstances are, but that sounds normal. What isn't normal is you have the same circumstances and remaining depressed for months and months. Again, this is something that you need to speak with your doctor about and discuss with him what is normal and what isn't.
What isn't normal though is that we go through life and never feel any sadness or depression in our life. How can we fully experience joy if we don't ever experience sadness. Having peace with God is something else entirely and if our walk with Him is right, we will have that, no matter what is going on around us ~ even though we may be questioning 'why' frequently.
Make sense?
Is it a full moon?  Someone could have told me and I could have reacted to it... sheesh, you guys are no fun sometimes 
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/15/2008 8:57:36 AM
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Stovie, your years with the head doctors have made you so wise! Well, okay, I don't know that THAT'S the reason, but you've been saying some very profound things the last few months, and I know that much of it comes from your own experience and growth.
Edited to correct a grammar error.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/15/2008 11:08:10 PM
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It's bad enough when people are threatening suicide, now some people on these forums are making jokes about committing suicide and terroristic acts! There's no shortage of sick, ignorant people in this world! 
Agapatos and everyone, I found your posts to be very encouraging. Let's keep each other in prayer and remember to lean on God and trust Him to help us with our various problems.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/17/2008 12:05:19 PM
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To late.
Full Moon Effect begins and ends at 80% of full moon.
Better luck next month.
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I have noticed that in this thread people have said that there is a chemical imbalance type of depression and there is a depression that is situational. I dont know where I fit in. I just had major depression two times in my life in the past 7 years. They both lasted about 2-3 weeks and then I was fine. It this normal? At both of these times, my life was crazy and the environment was hectic. I really dont know what to think. Do I have the major depression and God is just helping me each day so that I feel better. There are many kinds of depression. I recall you've studied some psychology ~ while this has benefits, it's also got it's disadvantages. Don't worry too much about what you know from your studies but talk with your doctor and listen to what he has to say.
People can react to situations they are thrown into ~ a family member dying is a major one, moving house, new job, marriage, Christmas all bring their own stresses and strains.
You say that you've been depressed 2 times in your live, for a several weeks and both are due to circumstances in your life. I don't know what the circumstances are, but that sounds normal. What isn't normal is you have the same circumstances and remaining depressed for months and months. Again, this is something that you need to speak with your doctor about and discuss with him what is normal and what isn't.
What isn't normal though is that we go through life and never feel any sadness or depression in our life. How can we fully experience joy if we don't ever experience sadness. Having peace with God is something else entirely and if our walk with Him is right, we will have that, no matter what is going on around us ~ even though we may be questioning 'why' frequently.
Make sense?
Is it a full moon? Someone could have told me and I could have reacted to it... sheesh, you guys are no fun sometimes
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/17/2008 10:50:02 PM
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I had a good visit with my therapist today. In fact, she knew that I didn't have a winter coat and she found a hand-me-down one that she gave to me today. She said that she got it at a charity clothing closet. I'm wondering if I should find out which one because I found a tube of lipstick, some artifical sweetener packets and a $20 bill in the pocket. Maybe if I just give it to her when I go back next week, she can donate it to the charity.
Oh, and the coat is my favorite color, red.
WOW! What a find! I bet you felt rich after finding that $20! 
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/17/2008 11:16:00 PM
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To late.
Full Moon Effect begins and ends at 80% of full moon.
Better luck next month.
LOL!
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I had a good visit with my therapist today. In fact, she knew that I didn't have a winter coat and she found a hand-me-down one that she gave to me today. She said that she got it at a charity clothing closet. What a nice therapist! But don't you live someplace where you don't have winter? As for the money, there's no way they could track who donated that coat. I think you're stuck with it, Roberta.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/17/2008 11:49:56 PM
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I had a good visit with my therapist today. In fact, she knew that I didn't have a winter coat and she found a hand-me-down one that she gave to me today. She said that she got it at a charity clothing closet. What a nice therapist! But don't you live someplace where you don't have winter? As for the money, there's no way they could track who donated that coat. I think you're stuck with it, Roberta.
She does that as part of her job. The thing was that I hadn't put in a request for a coat, so it took me by surprise that she got me one. One of our last visits I did mention that I was glad that we were having exceptionally warm weather because I don't have a coat.
It gets cold here. We don't get snow, but there is an old saying "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." That wind comes off of the Bay and chills you down to the bone!
I can't keep the money. If she doesn't remember which thrift shop she got it from, then I'll donate it to some charity. To me, it's not mine. I dunno, if I found a $20 on the sidewalk, I wouldn't think twice about keeping it. Not sure how this is different to me, but it is.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/18/2008 11:15:36 AM
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To late.
Full Moon Effect begins and ends at 80% of full moon.
Better luck next month.
LOL! That's what I thought too!
Maggie, I saw my social worker the other day (well, yesterday) and was talking about the internet and people and mentioned that I had spoken to various people about mental health stuff in forums and often regurgitated stuff that I'd learnt from my doctors and therapists! I told her sometimes it went in one ear and came out my fingers without my actually doing it myself!
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