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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 2/25/2010 4:58:43 PM
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PaulPate
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Well said justafan. I too like a wide variety of music. I was in high school band and in a drum and bugle corps in the Air Force. I like both those types of music (limited d&b), as well as classical. I like the old country music, and even some bluegrass. I can take a certain amount of contemporary gospel, and I love choir music, but when I go to an SG concert, I want to hear real Southern Gospel.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 2/25/2010 5:12:07 PM
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pastorjohn11776
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Just out of curiousity -- and this isn't an argument, just asking your opinion -- When does Southern Gospel stop being Southern Gospel? Is the GVB Southern Gospel? How about EHSS? How about the Booth Brothers (trio)? How about Ivan Parker (solo)? How do you define Southern Gospel?
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 2/25/2010 6:15:54 PM
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SGM needs to take a big tent approach. If it gets much smaller, it may end up on the "endangered species" list.
I couldn't disagree more. Country music tried the big umbrella thing. Back when country was really popular about 15 years ago everybody started jumping on the band wagon, calling themselves country, even though they were really folk or soft rock. Alan Jackson even wrote a song "Gone Country" about it. The whole thing backfired on them because they alienated the fans of traditional country music, who turned off their radios and didn't buy the products of new country. What passes for country now does not compare to the quality of what was around a few years back.
This will happen to SG too, if they try to force feed more contemporary sounds on SG fans. You are not going to make an Inspirations fan appreciate contemporary Christian music simply by calling it SG.
We attend a SG singing each year that always has one group that is contemporary. One of the singers in the group is related to the promoter. He is a very nice guy, but his music doesn't fit. More than half the audience gets up to hit the food stand, the potty, or the product tables when this group comes on stage. I feel very badly for them because they are really sincere men, but obviously the crowd doesn't want their music.
You can't force feed new styles on people who don't want it. I think that is where Bill Gaither may have alienated some of the traditional SG fans. He said in one of his books or in an interview that he aimed to introduce new styles of music so that folks would broaden their horizons. The problem is some people don't want their horizons broadened. Personally, I like a lot of sytles of music from the Primitive Qt. all the way to Bach. Even so, when I turn on Solid Gospel radio I want to hear real SG, not contemporary masquerading as SG.
I agree whole heartedly.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 2/25/2010 7:05:40 PM
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PaulPate
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Just out of curiousity -- and this isn't an argument, just asking your opinion -- When does Southern Gospel stop being Southern Gospel? Is the GVB Southern Gospel? How about EHSS? How about the Booth Brothers (trio)? How about Ivan Parker (solo)? How do you define Southern Gospel?
The definition of Southern Gospel has been discussed in many posts on this forum and probably none of the definitions meets a lot of approval. I suppose it is different for each individual. I love southern fried chicken, and that probably has as many desriptions as Southern Gospel, but when I sit down to eat what is claimed to be southern fried chicken, I immediately form my opinion as to the authenticity of the claim. It is only my opinion, but it determines whether or not I return to that place for chicken. Incidentally, I only replied to this post because you made it clear you weren't argung the point. I refuse to do that.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 2/25/2010 10:32:56 PM
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I think that is where Bill Gaither may have alienated some of the traditional SG fans. He said in one of his books or in an interview that he aimed to introduce new styles of music so that folks would broaden their horizons.
I generally agree with Justafan about SG, but I recognize that SG has evolved over the last 90 years or so. GVB hasn't alienated too many folks. I have been to approximately 20 of their concerts and they have all appeared to be sold out, and in venues many times the size that SG artists normally appear in.
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When does Southern Gospel stop being Southern Gospel? Is the GVB Southern Gospel? How about EHSS? How about the Booth Brothers (trio)? How about Ivan Parker (solo)? How do you define Southern Gospel?
I don't think that any of those artists could be called anything other than Southern Gospel. Unless you are of the school that thinks true SG is "four men and a piano player, grab a note and hang on".
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 2/26/2010 1:22:54 AM
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kingsman
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Blurr the lines. The Counselor is right, SGM have been evolving nearly forever. Great groups like the Statesmen, the Cathedrals, the Gaither Vocal Band and dozens of others have always been there to take the genre to the next step, and yet, can seamlessly do the next song is traditional SG fashion. That is mastery of the artform. The Cats and many other groups had a lot of Gaither in the music they produced and performed.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 3/9/2010 4:36:49 PM
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bodaddy52
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Boy, I'm glad I got this one started. It's certainly brought some interesting interpretations of what SG is. The only one I want to reply directly to is robertyork.
First of all, who are you refering to as you "NO NAME" folk? Was that a direct dig at someone? Everyone I see posted on here has a user name. And, having traveled with a very well know Southern Gospel group, I've discovered that the only "requirement" to be considered for a SG fan award is not who you are, but who you know. Trust me, once the good folks at Singing News magazine decide you don't fit their little mold and closed click, they can shut you out in a heartbeat. They've done it for the 43 years I've been performing off and on in gospel music, and some things just never change. Yeah, EHSS and GVB get a showcase, but the same handfull of "in" groups get the majority of the time on the main stage, sometimes three and four times, while other groups are relegated to secondary stages or their "15 minutes and three songs" of fame. SG is just like anything else. A handful of people control it, that's the way it's been since it started, and it will never change.
I respect all of you out there for posting your opinions, but over the years, I've watched SG's audience get smaller and smaller, and it's because "that's the way we've always done it".
PaulPate, I'm sorry. I've been to a GVB and EHSS concert, and the average age over a "typical" SG concert drops by 20 to 30 years. SG has to change with the time just like every other type of music.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 3/9/2010 7:01:36 PM
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PaulPate
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bodaddy52;
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PaulPate, I'm sorry. I've been to a GVB and EHSS concert, and the average age over a "typical" SG concert drops by 20 to 30 years. SG has to change with the time just like every other type of music.
Obviously, we attended different concerts, but you may be right in general about the age. To carry my analogy from my previous post a little further, if someone decides to make "southern fried chicken" using goose, duck, or turkey, it may taste good but it still isn't chicken. Tastes will certainly change with time for some, but for those whose tastes remain the same, why can't they have it the way they like it. No one is saying that there can't be varied styles of gospel music, let's just have it as an addition, not a substitution. Call it what you like, I have my favorites and that is what I will support.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 3/11/2010 6:54:49 AM
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kingsman
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I guess anything can be southern fried but goose and duck is too gamey and tough for my tastes.
Kindly pass me another helping of that southern gospel music with a slab of turkey on the side.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 3/12/2010 9:47:47 AM
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I grew up with the STatesmen, Blackwoods, and Stamps, Cathedrals, Oaks and IMperials. I always leaned toward the Oak Ridge Boys and Imperials style over anyone. The vocal band is by far better than any of those groups as far as the whole package. Whenever I listen to a traditional Southern Gospel Group on the radio or in person, I ususally go away entertained. When I listen to the Vocal Band concert or song on the radio I go away away like I just worshipped God. I am less interested in being entertained now and more interested in being blessed and the GVB deliver that every time I listen to them. I know they also entertain but no group can get me in a worship experience with the music I enjoy listening to like the Vocal Band.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 3/13/2010 1:38:47 AM
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kingsman
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That's quite a compliment to GVB. Gaither should package that up; that's the kind of stuff that sells.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 3/17/2010 1:59:15 AM
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I think for some, when there are a lot of member changes in a group as big as Gaither Vocal Band, it seems less like a group. That may contribute to the award issue.
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RE: Gaither Vocal Band - 3/18/2010 7:30:45 PM
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Dennie67
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The reason is this... Bill Gaither! He is a very talented person, but singing bass is not his strong point.
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