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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/20/2009 9:08:00 AM
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Sideways
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Greg is doing a major clean out/reorganization of the office... and he left his tool box open.
Nathan is in heaven, "fixing" everything he can find. I'm making sure Nathan doesn't brake anything or loose any tools, but I don't have the heart to pull him away.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/20/2009 10:02:32 AM
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Does Nathan have his own (toy) tool box at all, Ruth?
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/20/2009 10:29:15 AM
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I'd guess that even if he does, Daddy's tools are just a 1000x cooler! Josh has his own tools and loves "fixing" stuff, but when Daddy's are out, there is just no comparison.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/20/2009 11:58:48 AM
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Btw, bottle-fed babies tend to need solids earlier than breast-fed babies do.
Where did you get that info?
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/20/2009 12:25:02 PM
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I'll try and find an online source for you. It's basically to do with breastmilk changing as the baby grows to meet the changing needs of the baby(and therefore being more likely to be "enough" for longer), but formula obviously staying the same.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/20/2009 1:44:25 PM
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Sideways
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Does Nathan have his own (toy) tool box at all, Ruth?
He has Bob the Builder tools, but Kris is right. Daddy's tools are way, way cooler.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/20/2009 2:49:42 PM
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Poor guy.
When I was little my sister was spinning me around in our Grandpa's office chair, she flung me out and I split my scalp. Fun times. :)
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/20/2009 2:58:08 PM
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He has Bob the Builder tools, but Kris is right. Daddy's tools are way, way cooler.
Sure, I have a son, remember!
It's fine of course so long as you're able to be with them and watch them 100% of the time, because they can also be heavy and sharp and potentially dangerous for a little one, you can't afford to take your eyes off them for a second! A screwdriver in an outlet, or an eye, or someone else's eye, could have terrible consequences.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/21/2009 2:18:08 PM
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Derrek had his 2 month doctor's appointment today. He did get 3 shots and was NOT happy about it. However, just a minute or so after it was over, he was back to being a curious and attentive little guy. I have seen him more upset at having to get his diaper changed when he just wants to eat.
Head: 15.25 inches (+1 inch)
Height: 25.5 inches (+4 inches)
Weight: 9 lb 14.5 oz (+3 lbs)
He is very alert when he is awake now and getting very curious. I think he could probably turn over if he wanted to, but does not quite make it totally over yet. He is now in size 1 diapers and is already outgrowing some of the 0-3 month sized clothes. Our boy is happy and growing!
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/21/2009 11:22:55 PM
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Glad to hear it, Sharon. 
Well, we've been trying to talk to Nathan about God/Jesus more, and he's been sitting with us in church recently. He listens to Christian music in the car and prays before dinner and bedtime... and I feel like we're still failing.
He said something to me before bedtime that basically meant he equated God with monsters, as in the scary things little kids imagine in their closets. It's hard for me to put a finger on what he's thinking, but he's talked about nightmares and Jesus before, and he still has a very negative reaction to talks about God and Christmas being Jesus' birthday.
Now, we don't do Santa, he knows that is a fake, but he doesn't like Santa much, either. It seems to bother him that he can't see God, but God can see him.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/21/2009 11:29:36 PM
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You are not failing.....you are planting seeds. And from what you said in your post it sounds like you are doing a good job of it!
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/21/2009 11:41:30 PM
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I agree with Sharon Ruth, you're not failing. God's Word will not return void. I haven't ever heard of a child having negative reactions, but he is still young. I would keep reading him bible stories, songs, looking at nature and explaining how God made it all, showing him tangible things that he can see that God created, that God makes all beautiful lovely wonderful things, get him away from thinking he's "scary" etc. Does he watch much that has monsters in it?
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/21/2009 11:46:14 PM
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No, we keep away from anything scary because of the nightmares. His TV viewings is very tame. Dinosaur Train is about as spooky as we get!
I've actually stayed away from Bible stories at night, because I thought he'd confuse Bible stories with the fictional stories we read to him. Besides that, a lot of Bible stories are quite violent (David and Goliath anyone?)
I can only imagine how confusing this must be for him, since I'm an adult, and I don't have it all straight. I'm the only mom I know whose kid seems to have had such a negative reaction to talks about God.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/22/2009 12:10:41 AM
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It seems to bother him that he can't see God, but God can see him.
That quality would be pretty creepy for a 2-year-old. What do your talks about God consist of?
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/22/2009 12:48:27 AM
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You could start with some of the very basics from the creation story. Simply talking to him about all the things that God made, get him involved, take him for a walk or drive and ask him if he can point out things that God has made. I do agree that some Bible stories aren't appropriate for young kids. I distinctly remember the story of my friend's 3 year old putting his toys behind the couch at another friend's house. When friend 2 asked the son of friend 1 what he was doing he said he was putting his toys in hell because they were bad. Personally I think that's a little too much to put in the head of a 3 year old (not to mention, I believe incorrect teaching but that's something else altogether). But there are a lot of stories that are great.
What about a devotional? We end the say with a story, devotion and prayer. We have a great preschool devotional. The stories are short and end with a verse and we've been through the book a long time and so far we have found nothing objectionable for any of our kids' ages or that has been changed (I'm surprised how many Bible story books we look at and my hubby and I will look at each other and go "that's not right" - simplify people, don't change) and it has great art that the kids like a lot.
That said, I agree with the others. It's all about planting seeds. A little seed here, a little one there. Not everything all at once.
It sounds like he has a great imagination and takes an idea and makes it huge. Big things can seem scary at his age. Does he have nightmares a lot? When he does do you pray over him? I have noticed a huge difference in my kids' peace at bedtimes if they have a scary dream and if I pray out loud over them.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/22/2009 7:44:59 AM
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Sideways
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Myka, right now I don't feel as though our talks about God have a good direction or organization. We've been talking about Christmas and Jesus' birth, and I try to emphasize how God loves us and wants us to behave properly.
Julie, I love the idea of that devotional! A devotional could be kept separate from normal bedtime stories that are fictional, and it would give me a jumping off point when talking to Nathan.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/22/2009 7:57:39 AM
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Ruth, I think it would be okay to back off the subject for a bit. I agree you need to plant seeds but if those seeds are terrifying him then he may just not be ready. Nathan is two, correct? Right now with Hannah, who is a young 2, we are just saying the Christmas is Jesus' birthday and Jesus is the present God gave us. It is really basic but it is just the beginning of the foundation. I just talk about God very casually in our everyday life. She loves flowers so I will say, "Isn't that flower beautiful? Doesn't God make the prettiest flowers." I know I have a lot of information to impart but she is still so young. It is just an idea. She goes to Sunday School and has the most amazing teachers. I use the papers they sent home to continue review during the week.
I think the age they start Awanas, around 3 1/2-4 is a big age. I taught that age and it was amazing to see the change in comprehension during that first year. Things started to click in their heads.
I think what I am saying is there is plenty of time. At their age the idea that someone is watching you and you can't see them could really be scary.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/22/2009 7:59:01 AM
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Thanks Julie for the devotion recommendation. I have been looking for one to start later and haven't found a good one yet.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/22/2009 9:50:22 AM
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Sideways, I don't think your failing.
My 6 yo is still figuring things out (like, where is God if I can't see him? When you prayed for me why didn't I get better right away?). I'm still figuring things out.  It's worrisome at times because I'm afraid I'll answer wrong and set him on the path to bitter atheism or something. 
At 2, it can stay pretty simple. I wouldn't overthink it or worry it too much. Although, you could start Bible memory with really short verses. At that age, at least for my kids, it's just something fun they do with mama, part of bed-time routine, but it's incredible what they retain in the long term.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/22/2009 10:34:20 AM
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Ruth, I think it would be okay to back off the subject for a bit. I agree you need to plant seeds but if those seeds are terrifying him then he may just not be ready.
I agree. I would just back off and enjoy him at the stage he is in. He'll be more open later. And, of course, pray for him in the meantime. But two is very young still, and you sure don't want him to get a bad taste in his mouth for God by continuing to push the issue.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/22/2009 12:38:35 PM
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Ruth, I hesitate to put this because I don't want you to think I think you are failing because I don't. Sin, hell, and damnation were rammed down my throat at the church I attended as a very young child. I remember the pastor telling me sometime before I was 5 that if I disobeyed my parents I would burn in hell. It. Scared. Me. Senseless. After that, I had a huge problem with the concept of a loving God. I thought God was out to get me and catch me sinning. It was hard to trust a God that seemed to be setting me up to burn in hell. Those feelings continued in my subconsciou until I was in my early 30's and finally understood a relationship with Christ.
I am not saying you are doing this. I don't think you are. What I do think is that in an effort to be doctrinally sound, some parents push information too fast and too much which leads to fear and confusion in the child. I think it is okay for our little ones to see God as a loving Father. Christ was always so gentle and loving with children. Later and gradually the whole doctrine can be brought in to be taught and understood.
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RE: Baby Chat 7 - 12/22/2009 3:31:16 PM
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Ugh yeah! There are some full on stories, so that's wise you are sticking to the tame ones. Which is why I suggested just sticking to the nature/creation type stuff (without the devil) and just making God part of your everyday conversation instead of sitting and reading a story. So if he picks you a flower you can say "that's so sweet thanks Nathan, isn't God good how he made so many different flowers? How many more can we find?" it doesn't have to be HUGE and full of theology. Just bring it into your everyday life. That's how we teach at the Christian school, we don't sit down and have a lesson, God is in everything.
He is nearly 3 right? He'll catch on soon just take it slow and don't worry so much :)
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