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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 2/19/2008 10:20:14 PM
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solo_soprano22
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I think that some of us become much more sensitive during that time of the month "down there." It might be from an increased blood flow or something. I do understand it being painful to have bm's and not being constipated. I'm not sure what "help" you might want. If it is afterward, stool softeners/prune juice/etc might help with the aftereffects. If it is during, something to keep it from being painful (I was thinking something like lidocaine --otc -- but I wasn't sure whether you could do that or not).
I think when I started the thread I was thinking maybe some other women here experience this pain and found something to help out (or just knew something that helps). I'm not quite sure what I could do with lidocaine...I react to it (it gives me rashes wherever it's applied), but I'm thinking where I'd try to apply or inject it.
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You are not trying to use the bathroom with tampons inserted, are you? That makes me uncomfortable.
Nah, I can't use tampons because I have severe vulvodynia and I still haven't healed from that Nuck's cyst surgery.
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If Solo has what I had going on, it had nothing to do with the consistancy of the BM and didn't matter if I was using a tampon or not. I was told that it was related to prostaglandins and it was just how I was affected during my period. It's like a very sharp charley horse, stabbing cramp right in the rectum.
Yeah, I guess that's the best way to describe it. It feels like a muscle cramp from hades. I just never knew what caused it.
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Solo, I'm sorry you have so many problems with medications. That must make things so difficult. Like you, no regular pain meds worked - only the bcps. I guess they reduce the amount of prostaglandin you produce. I really felt at the time like it was a miracle to have found something that worked. I was only put on a very low dose pill since it was for this problem rather than contraception. The tri-phasic kind worked really well for me. I had a weird reaction to the monophasic kind when I had a different doctor accidently prescribe them for me. Some doctors recommend taking them continuously so you never have a period, but it was not necessary for me. I just took them like anyone else would and the reduction in prostaglandins did the trick.
It might be worth trying as long as your doctor feels it is safe for you.
I might try to ask the next time I'm at an ob/gyn. I think I'm so caught up in getting the pain disorders and surgery healing out of the way that I forget. But then again, I think when I mention it sometimes the docs kind of think that's the least of my problems with all the rest I have going on to sort out...if that makes sense. I guess I need to tell them just how bad it gets. 
I know one problem I've had quite a few times with docs is getting them to listen to me when I first tell them I'm having a reaction. Like that last time when the "harmless" bladders medication ate through my esophagus, I told them for weeks that something was wrong. I'm pretty sure it's in the records. I had to get seriously ill before they decided that *maybe* I was right. I guess maybe they think everyone but the docs and nurses know what's happening, but at my current ob/gyn...his staff just isn't that bright. Not trying to be mean, but sometimes I wonder what kind of training they had. I think that plays into the medication thing...if people won't listen til I'm half dead, I'm scared to even give it a shot.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 2/19/2008 10:27:06 PM
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Krislynx
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I think I have a very mild version of what you are describing - some of my bowel movements are painful during my period but not like you experience. And mine tend to be very loose that time of the month. Sorry I don't have any ideas to help - I do find that relaxing helps but mine are on a very different scale.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 2/19/2008 10:29:21 PM
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I run all extremes during my period. I do get that stabbing pain you described, but I always associated it with endometriosis. I get that pain not only during the BM itself, but sometimes when I simply sit down on a chair. It happens very rarely actually during the actual BM.
As for the constipation, could it be something as simple as dehydration? I don't drink as much because I don't fell as thirsty around that time of month. It causes constipation at first and then once things move, it is runny.
I'm glad my periods have finally regulated enough that I only have them for 3-4 days.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 2/20/2008 11:02:59 AM
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I think when I mention it sometimes the docs kind of think that's the least of my problems with all the rest I have going on to sort out...if that makes sense. I guess I need to tell them just how bad it gets.
Obviously none of your doctors have experienced that kind of pain or they'd think differently!
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I know one problem I've had quite a few times with docs is getting them to listen to me when I first tell them I'm having a reaction. Like that last time when the "harmless" bladders medication ate through my esophagus, I told them for weeks that something was wrong. I'm pretty sure it's in the records. I had to get seriously ill before they decided that *maybe* I was right. I guess maybe they think everyone but the docs and nurses know what's happening, but at my current ob/gyn...his staff just isn't that bright. Not trying to be mean, but sometimes I wonder what kind of training they had. I think that plays into the medication thing...if people won't listen til I'm half dead, I'm scared to even give it a shot.
I don't blame you. Well, you know if you're having a reaction. So, even if the docs don't believe you I think I'd cut out the bcps if you did react to them. It won't hurt anything to just stop taking them like some meds. For me, when I first went on them I just had a bit of nausea, was a little emotional and tired, but that sorted out pretty quickly (I'd say the first month). When they put me on the monophasic kind after being on the other for years, it affected me emotionally and mentally. I just felt very out of sorts and out of control of my emotions. So, I guess people can even react differently to the different types of bcps. That might be something to keep in mind.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 6/15/2008 2:42:13 PM
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solo_soprano22
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Yeah, I don't think people really understand it unless it happens to them. Describing it doesn't work well.
I'm not too found of ob/gyn's either, but it's because if they touch me I know beforehand that it'll hurt. I don't enjoy going there when I know they have to hurt me every time.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 7/11/2008 4:00:50 PM
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I've just found this thread. I've been getting extremely painful ovulation and period pains which affect the bowel as you describe. It feels as if something is obstructing the bowel - I actually have to try and go because it is as if something is pressing, but using the loo excrutiating. Nothing to do with consistency - even passing gas has me almost screaming in pain. The pain is very similar to labour - stabbing cramps which last about 15 seconds and come every minute or so and have me grabbing at something. This period it lasted for 3 days.
I have seen my GP as I wondered if it was endo or a fibroid. She couldn't find anything but I should be getting a scan in the next 6 weeks as there could be something on the inside of the uterus. Otherwise I am told the only other option is BCP which I really don't want to do for a number of reasons.
Anyway - I'm sorry to hear others have the same problem but it's also nice to know that I'm not alone.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 7/11/2008 5:11:01 PM
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Did the doc mention IBS at all? Sounds to me very much like the attacks I used to have.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 7/11/2008 8:52:55 PM
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Henrietta
You should see an internist though that specializes in IBS etc. I may be making an appointment soon.
Try activia or probiotic yogurt. That might help some.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 7/11/2008 9:04:40 PM
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My IBS went away completely after I had a food intolerance test and cut out all the foods which produced a reaction.
HenriettasCat, the scan (is it a transvaginal scan?) is a good idea to rule out anything else, but it does sound like IBS to me. Hormonal fluctuations/changes can cause gastrointestinal spasms, which would exacerbate IBS symptoms. If the scan doesn't show anything, I'd suggest you investigate the possibility of IBS and self-help for it.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 7/12/2008 9:16:00 AM
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I'll definately bare IBS in mind. I have had IBS in the past but not so bad. I wonder why it would be so bad during ovulation/period - and getting worse each month? It really is one of the worse pains I have had (and I have a high threshold). I am now on day 5 of my period and still have period pain and bloating (though at a tolerable level now - the 'contractions' have gone).
It really felt as if something was twisting the top of my back passage - that is my other thought - that it could actually be the end of my colon twisting - does that fit with IBS?
I had a prolapse a couple of months ago where the back passage came through the vaginal wall (how yukky is that? sorry if TMI). Reasurringly the doc said I was actually nice and tight there - not even any give surprising as I've had 2 big babies one of whom got stuck due to extra large head (Thank God for Kegals). The doc is sending me for an ultrasound. She explained that if there was something like a fibroid on the outside of the uterus it would be enlarged - which it isn't, but the ultrasound will check for anything inside the uterus - is that the same as a transvaginal scan? - All these words, i really should remember to take a notepad with me when I visit the doc's.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 7/12/2008 9:31:34 AM
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I wonder why it would be so bad during ovulation/period - and getting worse each month?
Maybe you didn't see this in my post?
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Hormonal fluctuations/changes can cause gastrointestinal spasms, which would exacerbate IBS symptoms.
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It really felt as if something was twisting the top of my back passage - that is my other thought - that it could actually be the end of my colon twisting - does that fit with IBS?
Sorry, don't know if your colon can twist. I do know that IBS can be excruciating (having in the past been doubled over with the pain).
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The doc is sending me for an ultrasound. She explained that if there was something like a fibroid on the outside of the uterus it would be enlarged - which it isn't, but the ultrasound will check for anything inside the uterus - is that the same as a transvaginal scan? - All these words, i really should remember to take a notepad with me when I visit the doc's.
A transvaginal scan IS an ultrasound - it might be worth checking with the doctor to make sure what you're having - though it probably will say when you get your appointment letter from the hospital. I had one of them last year, and it was fine (apart from having to have a full bladder for it!)
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 7/12/2008 12:54:37 PM
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Henrietta's Cat, several things you have said sound like endometriosis to me. Please make sure and ask the doctor about that possibility. That will not show up on ultrasound (the transvaginal scan) unless there are cysts associated with it. It is only definitively diagnosed through surgery...usually laproscopic if they can't see anything by ultrasound.
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RE: Periods and Bowel Movements - 7/12/2008 1:29:11 PM
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HenriettasCat,
Yes it is possible that it is endo - unfortunately those of us who are hypothyroid are at more risk of getting it.
You might want to look here and see if you have any other symptoms of endo:
http://thyroid.about.com/od/relatedconditions1/l/blendomet.htm
Definitely worth mentioning it to your doc.
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I'll probably try to get some help the next time I go to the ob/gyn...whenever that will be.
..I can hardly walk without bending over..and i sweat really bad too. and sometimes, not always I get constipated before i start during the PMS cycle...ask my family It's awful..hehe..and to make it worse, my whole private area hurts on the 1st day as well, not just the normal cramping sensation in the lower tummy...I think i should probably go to the doc, but I am a bit afraid of docs...I don't know why i just am..especially Gyno docs.. 
