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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/17/2009 4:26:44 PM
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fly0950
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Thanks for all of the advice everyone. I signed up on Fertility Friend and have done my temps the last 2 mornings. Though I am on day 18 of my cycle already.
Now is it safe to say that I don't really have a chance of being pregnant right now, right? I had low temps the past 2 mornings, 97.2 &97.4. I am just coming off the pill too, so I don't know how much that will affect it.
I am hopping this will really help show me what my cycles are doing and if/when I am ovulating. Wish I had found out about this sooner. It should be required for all women! FLY
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/17/2009 5:59:13 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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It's really hard to say, Fly. From what you have said, your cycles are fairly irregular. Are they long? Short? With long cycles, it is possible that one hasn't even ovulated on CD 18. Since I began charting, I have had a couple of cycles where I O'ed on day 17. For me, AF usually arrives 12 days after ovulation.
Also, I have had "lower" temps after ovulation. It isn't unusual for my temperatures after ovulation to run right in that 97 range. Most women run higher than that, but my body does not. Prior to O, my temps are usually around 96.8 (give or take). Currently, I am taking Clomid which raises my basal body temperature on the days I take it. Tell you what, I'll PM you with the link to my chart and you can take a look. I'll warn you that sometimes my BBT looks like mountain peaks. Most of that can be explained by the Clomid and/or not waking at the same time every day though.
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/17/2009 6:35:56 PM
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It's really hard to say, Fly. From what you have said, your cycles are fairly irregular. Are they long? Short? With long cycles, it is possible that one hasn't even ovulated on CD 18. Since I began charting, I have had a couple of cycles where I O'ed on day 17. For me, AF usually arrives 12 days after ovulation.
Also, I have had "lower" temps after ovulation. It isn't unusual for my temperatures after ovulation to run right in that 97 range. Most women run higher than that, but my body does not. Prior to O, my temps are usually around 96.8 (give or take). Currently, I am taking Clomid which raises my basal body temperature on the days I take it. Tell you what, I'll PM you with the link to my chart and you can take a look. I'll warn you that sometimes my BBT looks like mountain peaks. Most of that can be explained by the Clomid and/or not waking at the same time every day though.
I think with your particular case though...not ovulating on a consistent basis until around 17-18 days into your cycle is due to the PCOS. Now that you're on the Metformin that should even out and you'll see your cycles shorten to a more 'normal' range. Your temps will also not look like mountain peaks anymore...but will have more than likely a classic phasic pattern. 
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/17/2009 7:13:17 PM
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Mrs.Wifey
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Um, her cycles are normal  O'ing on day 17-18, plus a 12 day LP makes it like 29-30 days total.
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/17/2009 8:18:27 PM
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Thanks for all of the advice everyone. I signed up on Fertility Friend and have done my temps the last 2 mornings. Though I am on day 18 of my cycle already.
Now is it safe to say that I don't really have a chance of being pregnant right now, right? I had low temps the past 2 mornings, 97.2 &97.4. I am just coming off the pill too, so I don't know how much that will affect it.
I am hopping this will really help show me what my cycles are doing and if/when I am ovulating. Wish I had found out about this sooner. It should be required for all women! FLY
Yes, you are 'probably' not pregnant right now (although ovulation might have happened and 'pregnant' would be defined at implantation -- which is when you can tell from any kind of test).
You might not have even ovulated yet -- I don't usually ovulate until day 19 of my cycle which does make my cycles a bit on the longer end of 'normal'.
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/18/2009 3:54:20 PM
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fly0950
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So it would seem that temps. range from woman to woman as far as what is "low" and "high" for her, right? The book "Taking charge of your fertility" gives the "low" and "high" ranges but I am thinking those vary for each individual case.
DOF mentioned her's tend to run on the low side. Has anyone else found this to be true? I have only been doing this for a few days so I am curious to see where mine fall. But as a general rule whenever I have my taken my temp before it tends to run low.
Thanks ladies for all of your help!
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/18/2009 4:09:43 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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Well, right now I have one "valley" in my chart on Day 2. Today is my last day of Clomid, so I expect my temps to fall some over the next few days. Then they'll rise (again) for O & stay there, LOL. I am really hoping and praying that we'll conceive this month. The research I have done suggests that many women conceive fairly quickly (within 4 to 6 months) after beginning Metformin. Granted, this is if no other problems are present.
I'm hoping ovulation occurs on a more regular basis. Stress can also affect the timing of ovulation though. Right now I am home on Spring Break so things are fairly low stress (compared to the stress of work).
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/18/2009 5:30:40 PM
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DOF mentioned her's tend to run on the low side. Has anyone else found this to be true? I have only been doing this for a few days so I am curious to see where mine fall. But as a general rule whenever I have my taken my temp before it tends to run low.
Before I was diagnosed with PCOS I had chronically low temps. In the 96-97 range...which is not really normal...
And yes...temps to vary from woman to woman. Low temps aren't indicative in and of themselves as long as there is ovulation and a long enough Luteal Phase.
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/18/2009 10:09:08 PM
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I take 500 mg 3 times a day, so total dosage is 1500 mg of the Metformin. From my understanding, that's the average dose. I hope it doesn't take another 18 months (we've already been at this "game" longer than that).
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/21/2009 12:02:16 PM
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fly0950
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Wow....All this temping and everything has been fascinating. I had a positive ovulation test on Wednesday with a steady climb in my temps. Then when I took my temp. this morning I had a very big spike.
This is all just so amazing to me. The way the Lord made the body.... just fascinating!
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/21/2009 2:43:18 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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Yay for ovulation!! Day 19 isn't too bad...now to see how long the LP is. From my recollection, it needs to be at least 10 days or there could likely be a luteal phase defect.
That reminds me...I need to update my chart. I'm only on day 10 though. The earliest ovulation has occurred for me has been Day 12 (since I began charting).
And yes--the waiting is hard. We began the PS-MAPP class this week to become foster/foster to adopt parents. (So we do have a backup/additional plan...)
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/24/2009 10:51:20 AM
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fly0950
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Oh Wow....I hope the fostering goes well. I know so many people who have done that and love it!
So I had my big temp. shift on Saturday and the temps held high for Sat, Sun, Mon, but today I had a drop in temp. just below the cover line. What could that mean? I guess I have to wait and see if it goes back up tomorrow. Now, I did have to get up early today then normal and I didn't really have any PJ's on and I felt a bit cooler than I normally do when I wake up. Could those things make a difference?
Still trying to figure out how this all works! Fly
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/24/2009 8:53:11 PM
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clag4christ
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Oh Wow....I hope the fostering goes well. I know so many people who have done that and love it!
So I had my big temp. shift on Saturday and the temps held high for Sat, Sun, Mon, but today I had a drop in temp. just below the cover line. What could that mean? I guess I have to wait and see if it goes back up tomorrow. Now, I did have to get up early today then normal and I didn't really have any PJ's on and I felt a bit cooler than I normally do when I wake up. Could those things make a difference?
Still trying to figure out how this all works! Fly
It usually means that you're going to start your period.
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/25/2009 10:25:44 AM
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Now, I did have to get up early today then normal and I didn't really have any PJ's on and I felt a bit cooler than I normally do when I wake up. Could those things make a difference?
I wonder about that too. This winter I noticed my temps were quite a bit lower than what they are most of the year - after buying a new thermometer, I determined it MUST have been because of the coldness (we have no heat and some nights it would drop below 40 inside the house). I can't remember if waking up earlier/later than usual will give you higher or lower temps...
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/25/2009 11:49:09 AM
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fly0950
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Well my temp went back up this morning. I had PJ's on and stayed nice and toasty under my covers. So I took my temp and had to get up and walk to the bathroom to see it, since there was no light on in the bedroom. When I got back in bed, I took it a couple minutes later, just for kicks, and it was low again, so maybe the cold (and getting up does effect it).
We don't have a heater either, so it can get kinda chilly. We don't have any air conditioner either, so the summer can be warm. That is the drawback to the charming "old" houses! 
I am also not using a BBT, I am just using a plain ole regular thermometer. So I think I might go by the drug store today and look into getting one.
I don't know how I am going to reconcille the times I have to get up earlier. On Tues, Wed, Thurs, I have to get up earlier, while the rest of the days I am able to sleep in a little bit more. Maybe an hour difference. I guess time will tell........
Hope everyone has a great day!!!
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/25/2009 12:09:07 PM
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really there is a thread dedicated to charting and such, and we should probably be talking about charting over there... but...
waking at differing times *will* affect your temps. Also, sleeping in a different temp (if it's drastic enough) *will* affect your temps. There are a lot of things that will affect your temps. I suggest that you start reading through either a book, or the fertilityfriend website (where it has questions like these answered for you) and see what you can find.
I didn't always have to get up at the same times, but my hubby did. So, we just set our alarm to go off for when he gets up, he does what he has to do, then as he's leaving he comes in, takes my temp, writes it on a calendar, and goes off to work. The weekends he just gets up, takes my temp, writes it on the calendar and goes back to sleep. It works fantastically well for us.
oh, and it really is better to have a (digital) basal body thermometer than just a reg. thermometer.
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/25/2009 12:55:45 PM
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fly0950
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Well I am not sure where that thread is. I tried looking for it when I was first going to post, but thought the TTC thread would work just as well, since that is what we are all trying to do!
As for reading, I have done a bunch already. I have read and re-read "Taking Charge of your Fertility" and all sorts of different web sites! If you know of any good books that you liked, just let me know what they are.
What a nice husband you have to take your temps like that.
And yes, I think I will get a basal body thermometer. I am sure it will be more accurate, as that is what it is made to do! haha
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 3/25/2009 4:03:43 PM
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yeah, my husband is very good to do the temp. taking for me. =) I'd struggle with it if he didn't help out.
I posted in the other thread to bring it more current/to the front page. It's natural family planning... etc...
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 4/1/2009 7:43:27 AM
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Fly--how are things going? If CD 18 was the 17th of March & O was the day after, I would think you should know one of two things by now (pregnant or not pregnant). Let us know when you have a chance to stop by. ((hugs))
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 4/1/2009 11:59:33 AM
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fly0950
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Well.....I have no idea!
I am still having high temps that are well above the coverline. I believe today is 12 days past ovulation. So I am glad that my luteal phase is long enough. No sign of a period though. I took a test on Monday and got a negative. I had a little bit of cramping yesterday and thought maybe my period would start but nothing.
I don't really feel any big symptoms. Though I was just starving over the weekend......thought it was because my period was going to start.
Anyway........is it possible for a luteal phase to be long without being pregnant? Or is it possible to be pregnant with out any major symptoms. Leave it to my body to be the freak of nature!
How are things for you Daughter of Faith??
((Hugs back!))
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 4/1/2009 1:45:49 PM
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pumpkin
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normally, your luteal phase won't be longer than 18 days. (If I remember what I read on Fertility Friend correctly)
There is nothing "freak of nature"-ish about a 12 day luteal phase. That's good! =)
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RE: Trying to Concieve (TTC) Round 3 - 4/3/2009 2:07:47 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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Fly--that's crazy to have no idea! But I do understand, esp. when you *think* AF should have arrived, etc. At this point in time, you should be 16 days past O (I think you had said Wednesday the 18th, right?). Are your temps staying up? Or did AF arrive?
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