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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/2/2009 10:41:28 PM
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Krislynx
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I'd mention it. But not worry too much about it. Mine was a bit stiff and twingy for a while, I don't really remember how long. I have extremely mild scoliosis though and the curve is, of course, where the epi goes. I don't think it caused a problem per say, but it did take 3 tries to get mine in which didn't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies. I'm going to try and have the attending do it this time instead of a resident - she was all set to do it with Josh but then the LD nurse said they didn't want the lock in that early. Yes, yes, I should have insisted, but I didn't. I still don't understand why they couldn't do the test and lock then - the LD nurses kept making me stay in bed anyway, that would have actually prevented me from moving for a bit!
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 3:38:57 PM
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sharonjef2007
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Ok, another question....
...Having a c-section weakens the uterus for a time where the incision is and until it is fully healed. How long, on average, does that inner healing take? I know it is going to change from person to person, but on average, what do you say? When is it deemed "safe" to be pregnant again after a section?
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 3:44:38 PM
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SurpassingPeace
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My doctor told me to wait at least 6 months, 18 months if I wanted to try a vbac. I was pregnant again 8 months after my first csection and I was fine.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 3:53:00 PM
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manda59
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In the UK the advice is to wait a year before becoming pregnant again after a c-section, to minimise the risk of scar rupture.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 3:54:54 PM
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sharonjef2007
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Wasn't Michelle Duggar pregnant again 4ish months after her last c-section? Then again, she may not be a good person to look at, she does have a super uterus after all...LOL!
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 3:56:04 PM
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Mrs.Wifey
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My mom conceived my youngest sister 3 months after her csection, they were all fine. She had 2 succesful VBAC's.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 5:01:50 PM
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manda59
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Thing is, of course it's possible to be ok if you conceive only a few months after a c-section, but it's also possible to not be ok. Waiting a year is what's recommended here in order to practically guarantee safety for everyone, not just the "lucky" ones.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 5:22:21 PM
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Brandy
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And what if it's not just luck Manda? What if it's a true full healed uterus doing it's job?
I think the 1 year guideline for the UK is fine. It helps prevent those that aren't truly healed from having ruptures and other complications.
The advice here varies from Dr to Dr, so that should be the bottom line recommendation, talk to YOUR Dr. I've done a quick search online and found varying answers from 6 months to 2 yrs, it all depends on the reason for your section, the severity of incision and any complications YOU specifically may have that your Dr will know about.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 6:54:12 PM
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manda59
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And what if it's not just luck Manda? What if it's a true full healed uterus doing it's job?
I'm not sure how any of us could know for sure that we'd healed deep down inside and think it is sensible to err on the side of caution.
I know for a fact that (a) I heal brilliantly and yet (b) discomfort in that area persisted for several months after my section. My incision was small and clean; there were no complications, it healed very quickly, left a small neat scar, never "wept", never got infected. I was active afterwards, walked a lot, rested when I needed to; my "loss" stopped quickly. Yet the discomfort was still there for a fair while, which indicated to me that the deep down healing takes longer than we may thinik.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 7:49:36 PM
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SurpassingPeace
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How would you know that you were fully healed? People heal at different rates, especially c-sections. Personally, I took the drs advice and waited 6 months. If we have a third child we will wait much longer. I truly believe that the reason I carried him so low and the resulting problems were at least exacerbated by close pregnancies.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 7:58:03 PM
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Mrs.Wifey
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I truly believe that the reason I carried him so low and the resulting problems were at least exacerbated by close pregnancies.
Probably by close pregnancies, but not necessarily by your previous csection. Although I carried DD incredibly low and she was my first full term birth 
We waited 2 years at my OB's advice, after a pretty rough pregnancy. Actually, I think his advice was to wait 12-18 months, but I wasn't ready at that point. Physically I was great, but I had no desire for another child.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 8:42:23 PM
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sharonjef2007
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Ha.... I'll take the kids, just not the pregnancy nor birth.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 8:43:59 PM
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Mrs.Wifey
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I sort of feel the same way, Sharon. Actually, I don't mind the birth part, that was relatively easy compared to the 12 weeks of bed rest that I had 
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 12/3/2009 10:16:49 PM
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SurpassingPeace
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I still love being pregnant. I love feeling my baby move. I love that closeness. There was discomfort and it wasn't all sunshine and flowers but I still loved it. I am trying to get my weight down to where it should be so if we have a third child it will be easier on me. The scary thing, to me, is that I would be around 40. I know things can go great but it seems like that is when things start going more wrong, kwim?
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 3/12/2010 7:03:54 PM
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IAMJulie
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Kind of bumping this thread. I had a dickens of a time finding it today even using the search feature. Just having a hard time making the mental shift from water birth to c-section so I thought I'd bump this so I can come back when I have more time and read through the posts.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 3/12/2010 8:59:43 PM
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IAMJulie
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Thank you. I'd really love for someone to come sweep my kitchen. ;) Oh wait, maybe that's not what you meant.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 3/21/2010 10:48:39 PM
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sharonjef2007
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LOL...thanks Manda. I'm giving fair warning....if you don't want to read a c-section horror story, don't read this thread.
My doctor had scheduled me for a c-section due to having a breech baby. However, not only did the baby not want to turn heads down, he didn't want to wait for the scheduled c-section to enter the world. So, my husband came home from work on a Tuesday night and once he got changed and bags went into the car, we were on our way to the hospital.
Fast forward (I won't repeat the parts of my birth story I already posted) to after the decision was made. I was prepped for my spinal/epi. It took three tries to get the needle where it needed to be in my spine to the point where my entire body was shaking as she tried to shove the needle in my back. I felt a whole lot more of it than I should have since for some reason the first needle they gave me to numb the area did not work so well.
I did not feel the doctor cutting, but make no mistake, I felt EVERYTHING ELSE. It was like the spinal worked for a couple of minutes but then, as they pulled the baby out, stopped working. It was terrible. My husband was with the baby on the other side of the room and I was crying on the table between throwing up and asking the anthestisiologist for more drugs. They had given me the max amount of everything they could short of putting me under general. She kept telling me that feeling all of that is "normal" and that I just needed to find a way to get through it. I would have prefered that but it was not medically indicated. I felt when the doctor was repairing the uterus and moving everything around in order to inspect the female organs. I felt it as he pushed my uterus back into my abdominal cavity and abdominal muscles were pushed back together. After that my memory is a bit fuzzy until the doctor asked me if I wanted stitches or staples.
My doctor apologized about 900 times afterwards. While the surgery was a success, what should have been one of the happiest moments of my life turned out to be the most painful and terrifying. It was not until after the surgery was over and I was in recovery that I started to get some relief since they were giving me epi meds for the first 24 hours to help with pain management. The problem was not with the placement of the needle but with the meds itself. I didn't even want to hold my baby, but they made me in order to do the skin to skin deal. I suppose they thought that holding him would take my mind off of what just happened but I was just afraid I was going to drop him. Couple that with not sleeping for 24 hours and having some big time breastfeeding issues I sometimes seriously consider not having more children just so I won't need another c-section.
My son is wonderful and I love him very much. But I never never NEVER EVER want to experience it again.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 3/21/2010 11:11:12 PM
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Brandy
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I've never had a csection so fair warning.
What you had sounds horrible Sharon. Sounds like you didn't take the meds in at all and I'm sorry the anesthesiologist wasn't able to do more.
BUT and here's the but :)
IF you have another child from your body you can go into it KNOWING the previous situation and talk to an anesthesiologist prior and tell him/her about your experience. Hopefully there will be other options for pain ie a straight spinal and not an Epi ? or some nitrous oxide before needle insertion?
You can go into it knowing the really, how much worse could it be from the first time right? I say that half light heartedly and half not.. you have no guarantee even if you find an OB willing to do VBAC that you will actually get to have one. You could have another breech or transverse or baby could drop the heart rate without cause and need to be evacuated ASAP.
You can also frankly talk to your OB and anesthesiologist about general and see what the pros/cons are for YOU in your situation.
I'm 4 months away from #2 and there are things I'm partially dreading happening again myself. And things I'm looking forward to happening again. But mostly there's fear right now :) and I'm ok with that for now. I have time to work it out and so you do.
Again, I'm so sorry your story isn't a happy csection that was painfree and full of no regrets, but I'm also happy you both made it through and you are able to look back and know things NEED to be different for another go around.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 3/22/2010 1:24:54 AM
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Mrs.Wifey
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I agree with Brandy.... I will also say, in regards to the breastfeeding issues, don't let those determine whether or not you have more biological kids. I had a horrible, horrible experience with Gabby that pretty much made me decide never to even attempt breastfeeding again and it was part of why we waited 2 full years before ttc again. But um, here I am at 31 weeks pregnant and it doesn't seem so bad to try again. I'm better educated and honestly, talking about my issues over and over and over with other supportive women has helped put some of the "ptsd" to rest.
As for the VBAC stuff, I know Tricare will cover a midwifes care depending on the situation(and I think yours applies, aren't you out of the MTF area?) have you considered that? Also, there is an ICAN support group in Omaha, you might try getting in contact with their leader and picking her brain.
While you may or may not choose to have more bio kids it's still a good thing to educate yourself about the options so you can make an informed decision.
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