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Guitarists' Corner - 5/1/2007 9:48:22 PM
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/1/2007 9:51:14 PM
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okay, what is wrong with playing an Em like this???
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I got some major flak from a friend for that... Anybody gonna back me up????????
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/1/2007 10:02:53 PM
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Well, it's technically not an Em as you're missing the third. If you were to add in the open G string, then it would be an inverted Em chord (inversions refer to the order the notes are in - they're rarely important on guitar). What you've got there isn't a chord, its a dyad. A fourth, to be precise. Ritchie Blackmoore of Deep Purple would often use these in place of power chords (Smoke on the Water being the most well-known example).
If you were to play that with all the rest of the strings open, then you'd have what most guitarists define as an Em. Technically you only need the open G string, but adding on the open E and B strings will add stability.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/1/2007 10:14:19 PM
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Well, it's technically not an Em as you're missing the third. If you were to add in the open G string, then it would be an inverted Em chord (inversions refer to the order the notes are in - they're rarely important on guitar). What you've got there isn't a chord, its a dyad. A fourth, to be precise. Ritchie Blackmoore of Deep Purple would often use these in place of power chords (Smoke on the Water being the most well-known example).
If you were to play that with all the rest of the strings open, then you'd have what most guitarists define as an Em. Technically you only need the open G string, but adding on the open E and B strings will add stability.
Unless I'm reading the chart wrong, you do have an open position e-minor chord played on all 6-strings. There's nothing wrong with playing it this way, although I tend to not use a lot of 5 and 6 note chord forms.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/1/2007 10:37:16 PM
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Oh. That's possible. I was interpreting the chart as just playing the B and E on the A and D strings. Maybe the rest are meant to be open. If that's the case, then yes, it is an Em.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/2/2007 6:51:17 AM
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That's how I play an Em...but I definitely hit the open B and E strings.
BTW, I watched a really interesting clip on Youtube with Angus Young sort of explaning how he came up with a couple of his riffs...by watching it I was able to kinda figure out the intro to "Stiff Upper Lip"...that really is a tasty little riff!
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/2/2007 7:24:46 AM
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How does your friend say an Em should be played?
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/2/2007 10:26:12 AM
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Is he complaining because you bar it? It is an Em so I can't see the beef with it.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/2/2007 11:26:16 AM
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Looks ok to me. Are you playing this on an electric or acoustic? Open chords like that often do not work as well on electrics.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/2/2007 4:48:07 PM
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Oops... some confusion there... I do strum all the strings... I was in a hurry and forgot to add the 0's to the tab LOL. I kinda made it look like a B. Whoops!
I know other ways to play it, that's just always been my favorite. I was a little worried that I was wrong, though.
I play it on both acoustic and electric, though it sounds better on acoustic. I mostly bar electric chords if I'm playing rhythm.
To tell you the truth, I think he's just complaining because I can beat him at guitar now... He's gotten to where he criticizes everything I play. Like I can't play guitar if I'm a girl or something... Oh well... Thanx for all the help!
One more question for my wise friends... I've started playing lead, but since I'm self-taught, I don't have anyone to tell me if I'm right... How do you determine what notes to play? If the rhythm chord is A do you play anything in the A major scale (A, B, C#, D, E, F#, G#, A)?
Ugh... I sound like such a newbie...
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/2/2007 5:10:31 PM
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If you're playing over an A chord, then you can use any note from the A major scale, as well as any note from A major pentatonic, a series of different various modes - and in that vein you can also play the F#m scale over it - or just go for a straight Amaj arpeggio, or make it an Amaj7 arpeggio to make things interesting. All sorts of possibilities.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/2/2007 5:49:31 PM
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Sweet, thanx. I was closer than I thought LOL.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/3/2007 1:42:19 AM
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While it's true that you can play a wide variety of notes over a chord, I'd probably start a beginner with just trying to play the notes of the chord, i.e. playing A, C#, and E over an A major chord. Getting into extended harmonies is cool, but there's more to it than just playing the notes. For example, you probably don't want to play a low G# if the rest of the band is harmonizing the chord in root position, since your G# and their root A will be in the same octave (or adjacent octaves) and clash. However, playing the G# in a higher register will help avoid that.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/3/2007 6:49:58 AM
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I will second iluvatar's advice, with some additions.
Rather than playing the notes of the whole A scale, you should (at least at first) keep to the notes of the key of the tune. The A major chord can mean the song is in A or D or E, D melodic or harmonic minor. Learn your scales. Major scales, minor scales, blues scales, major and minor pentatonic scales.
I will also second what was said about the lower registers clashing, especially on certain notes. Keep your playing to the mid and upper range of the instrument.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/3/2007 4:56:01 PM
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Has anybody here played "savior'' by skillet. Where did you get your chords for the song from. I can not find an accurate one for nothing (probably from all the distortion).
And do you have any tips for playing it.
Thanks
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/3/2007 10:36:24 PM
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hey dose any body live near woodbridge va that could give guitar lessons for a few bucks?????
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/6/2007 4:10:12 PM
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GuitarGeek: check www.ultimate-guitar.com or www.chordie.com
Hannah: get the Guitar Fretboard Workbook by Barret Tagliarino if you can't find lessons. It teaches scales, chord construction, and harmonics by building on the basics. I highly recommend it. Using it, in two months I could outplay a friend of mine who had been playing for a year. 
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/6/2007 5:18:52 PM
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okay, what is wrong with playing an Em like this???
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I got some major flak from a friend for that... Anybody gonna back me up????????
I don't see any problem with this fingering. Played in 1st position it's a good alternative to an E Major following an A Major or D Major if you want to add some atmosphere or coloring to a piece.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/6/2007 5:39:15 PM
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Thanx. The song I was playing is "To the Ends of the Earth" by Hillsong United. The chords are Em, C2, G, and D; for me, the transition from this Em was the smoothest.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/6/2007 7:13:03 PM
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hey dose any body live near woodbridge va that could give guitar lessons for a few bucks?????
I live in Woodbridge. What church do you go to?
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/6/2007 10:44:46 PM
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GuitarGeek: check www.ultimate-guitar.com or www.chordie.com
I have tried the ultimateguitar. But not chordie so I will check it out.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/7/2007 11:22:55 AM
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Thanx. The song I was playing is "To the Ends of the Earth" by Hillsong United. The chords are Em, C2, G, and D; for me, the transition from this Em was the smoothest.
That Em is fine. The whole song can be played in open position chords except the F which is 1st position barre, like this:
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/7/2007 11:56:09 AM
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Has anybody here played "savior'' by skillet. Where did you get your chords for the song from. I can not find an accurate one for nothing (probably from all the distortion).
And do you have any tips for playing it.
Thanks
First, I think the opening acoustic guitar is tuned in DADGAD tuning and not standard EADGBE.
Next, the opening chords for the song are arpeggiated Dm, C, BbMaj7 and then D, C, F, C.
The first chords of the electric distorted guitar are open D to D# or Eb, played like this:
x--x--x--x-x--x--x-x--x-x-x-x
x--x--x--x-x--x--x-x--x-x-x-x
2--2--2--2-2--2--2-2--3-3-3-3
0--0--0--0-0--0--0-0--1-1-1-1
0--0--0--0-0--0--0-0--1-1-1-1
0--0--0--0-0--0--0-0--1-1-1-1
You can play the above as well as most of the electric part in drop-D tuning but DADGAD seems to work better, especially on the chorus chords, if you'll be the only guitar covering both acoustic and electric parts.
The verse chords are Dm, C, F and then Dm, C, F, C/E with a really heavy and chunky open D going into the chorus.
The chorus chords are D (no 3) add9, C, Bb and then D (no 3) add9, F, C/E played like this:
x-x-x--x-x-x--x---x---x
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---5---x
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---5---10
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---5---8
5-5-5--5-5-5--5---3---8
0-0-0--0-0-0--0---x---8
x-x-x--x-x-x--x---x---x
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---x---x
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---5---5
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---3---2
5-5-5--5-5-5--5---3---3
0-0-0--0-0-0--0---3---2
That'll get you to the bridge. Let me know whan you need the rest. I got this from listening to it for about 5 minutes so excuse the mistakes if they're there.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/7/2007 6:08:39 PM
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ORIGINAL: Guitargeek
Has anybody here played "savior'' by skillet. Where did you get your chords for the song from. I can not find an accurate one for nothing (probably from all the distortion).
And do you have any tips for playing it.
Thanks
First, I think the opening acoustic guitar is tuned in DADGAD tuning and not standard EADGBE.
Next, the opening chords for the song are arpeggiated Dm, C, BbMaj7 and then D, C, F, C.
The first chords of the electric distorted guitar are open D to D# or Eb, played like this:
x--x--x--x-x--x--x-x--x-x-x-x
x--x--x--x-x--x--x-x--x-x-x-x
2--2--2--2-2--2--2-2--3-3-3-3
0--0--0--0-0--0--0-0--1-1-1-1
0--0--0--0-0--0--0-0--1-1-1-1
0--0--0--0-0--0--0-0--1-1-1-1
You can play the above as well as most of the electric part in drop-D tuning but DADGAD seems to work better, especially on the chorus chords, if you'll be the only guitar covering both acoustic and electric parts.
The verse chords are Dm, C, F and then Dm, C, F, C/E with a really heavy and chunky open D going into the chorus.
The chorus chords are D (no 3) add9, C, Bb and then D (no 3) add9, F, C/E played like this:
x-x-x--x-x-x--x---x---x
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---5---x
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---5---10
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---5---8
5-5-5--5-5-5--5---3---8
0-0-0--0-0-0--0---x---8
x-x-x--x-x-x--x---x---x
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---x---x
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---5---5
7-7-7--7-7-7--7---3---2
5-5-5--5-5-5--5---3---3
0-0-0--0-0-0--0---3---2
That'll get you to the bridge. Let me know whan you need the rest. I got this from listening to it for about 5 minutes so excuse the mistakes if they're there.
Thanks I will try it.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 5/7/2007 10:18:13 PM
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ORIGINAL: REDrockstargirl
Thanx. The song I was playing is "To the Ends of the Earth" by Hillsong United. The chords are Em, C2, G, and D; for me, the transition from this Em was the smoothest.
That Em is fine. The whole song can be played in open position chords except the F which is 1st position barre, like this:
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yeah, thanx. that's my favorite F. takes a little practice, but it's the cleanest I know 
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