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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 12/16/2008 7:59:39 PM
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Johnny_
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It is very encouraging to see my fellow Christians defending brother Washer. I'm sure we'll see a few anti-Washer people come here and try to cause a riot. It doesn't matter to me because I have been blessed by pastor Washer's sermons..........praise God!
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 12/20/2008 11:49:15 PM
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I have heard many Washer sermons and let me just say that NO ONE'S theology is perfect. Washer's is flawed, as is mine and yours. Only God knows all there is to know about God.
Washer does have a consistent message. It's the same in every sermon I've heard.
His message is this: Faith in Christ alone is all that will save us.
The reason he talks so much about narrow gates and ways is because he believes many professing believers have not placed their faith in Christ.
He thinks that many place their faith in a prayer or a baptism that was done long ago, maybe even as a child. This lack of faith in Christ is evidenced by a sinful lifestyle.
That is all. And he is probably right.
When I listen to Washer, I do not feel condemned. I feel that he is training me to minister to middle school and younger kids. He is teaching me to teach them the Bible and let God give them the assurance of salvation. I do not need to lead them in a sinner's prayer and tell them they are saved. I will pray with them for sure, but God will deal with their heart.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 12/22/2008 2:56:46 PM
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I like to intertwine these two phrases with Christianity, I'm sure Washer would agree. I am confident we've all heard these phrases before at some point in our life.
1. "you can talk the talk BUT can you walk the walk"
2. "can you back it up by putting your money where your mouth is"
These 2 phrases are like a idiom. They are an expression of a language challenging someone to back up his/her statement with action. Why do I bring this up? Because too often than not, people automatically assume that Christianity is just a religion that is nothing more than merely professing Jesus Christ. This is the mainstream American Christianity that I don't agree with and it is not biblical. I think a professing Christian should see an evidence of change in their life, usually in the form of an action. Jesus Christ never said that being a Christian was giving a one-time phenomenal speech. I know that many people want to believe that they can simply talk their way into heaven but I disagree. Now, I am fully aware that people don't like to hear these 3 words: humbleness, repentance, and obedience. However, I am a firm believer that without accepting these 3 words, it is virtually impossible to follow Jesus Christ each day. The bottom line is this, being a Christian is much more than saying a few simple words that may seem pleasing to someone's ears. Living a Christian life is actually an experience that gives new meaning to your life, a life that is should be transformed from the old to the new.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 1/3/2009 1:27:30 AM
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You ever notice that Paul Washer is never invited on TBN? or any of the other faith networks.
I have seen his sermons on Youtube, and really one theme is found in his messages. And that is repent, and live a life with fruit. He preaches against hypocrisy in the church alot. I rather like him.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 1/3/2009 9:53:54 AM
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You ever notice that Paul Washer is never invited on TBN? or any of the other faith networks.
I have seen his sermons on Youtube, and really one theme is found in his messages. And that is repent, and live a life with fruit. He preaches against hypocrisy in the church alot. I rather like him.
He has actually appeared on TBN one time that I know of. It has been a long time ago. It was on their Praise the Lord program, with Kirk Cameron hosting.
You ought to be able to find Kirk's interview with him on Youtube.
It was probably just a one time shot with Kirk himself inviting him, his message is so much different than the rest of the stuff on their programming.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 6/4/2009 4:56:13 AM
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Hi everyone. I have a video I made recently about false prophets. It may be something someone has never seen before Peace be upon Israel.. here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDHNJlXsjsk
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 6/4/2009 10:31:38 AM
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I'm coming in kind of late here.
I attended that Youth Evangelism Conference when Paul Washer gave the message that year.
It was truly one for all to hear. It was right on the money. It made me examine myself.
A few years later, I got to see it again on video. It moved me just as much then as it did the first time I heard it.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 6/5/2009 11:20:17 AM
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paul is one of the truest speakers i have ever heard. people these days are not use to hearing a message that is real. he is 100% correct in stating that christianity in america almost totally false. the truth is in christ and christ alone. a seed of faith is not the money we tithe or offer. there is a list that never ends.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 8/13/2009 6:24:38 PM
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For a short while I was a pretty big fan of Paul Washer but over time something about what he was saying didn't click. I started to read scripture and started reading more on Paul and somethings about what he says just aren't true and stem from calvinism. In his sermon entitled 10 indictments against the church he says that the church denies the sufficieny of scripture. But in another sermon he says that if 2 people are preaching different gospels out of the bible that we need to turn to church history and people like Spurgeon who were "useful" to the kingdom to see who is correct. Well that basically equates to the catholic doctrine that scripture, tradition and the magesterium need each other to stand. I can refute a calvinist, SDA, Liberal Christian et al without needing to read any of these men. All I need is a King James Bible. Washer also seems to be a proponent of this idea that we must repent unto salvation which is to say you will become more godly to the day that you get saved. Which is completley unbiblical. Paul (the apostle) was on his way to damascus to deliver orders to kill christians when He got saved. The thief on the cross got saved when he asked Jesus for forgivness. When Jesus showed His power to Peter, Peter fell down and said get away from me I'm a sinful man. And in essence is a "works" salvation. Now I do not doubt Paul is sincere but as Paul (the apostle) states a little leaven leaventh the whole lump. He is an undercover calvinist who preaches a heretical doctrine called lordship salvation. Now many people give him a pass because of his missionary work but mormons, catholics, SDAs, Jehovas witnesses etc go out and do mission work in dangerous places that doesn't make their doctrine any better because of it.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 8/18/2009 10:41:20 AM
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Lance: I too have listened to dozens of sermons from Paul Washer,
Ill say you are mistaken about Paul, he's not undercover calvinist, he is openly calvinist. He's not undercover Lordship he is openly lordship salvation. He does not preach we will gain salvation over time, he preaches a salvation obtained by faith, he preaches we must be born again.
But what he doesnt preach is Calvin, He doesnt preach MacArthur, he preaches Christ. You were right the first time to enjoy Paul W. Paul Washer does not in any way preach works salvation. What he does preach is a salvation once received has the accompanying fruits and good works that appear on a good tree. That kind of preaching is biblical as one can possibly get.
Paul in his sermons creates alot of 'hypotheticals" where he takes the place of the nominal Christian and makes the claims of nominal Christians with their allegiance to the sinners prayer or their faith placed upon their families religious heritage etc...then he argues against himself with the biblical standard and the doctrines of grace. Many of his sermons contain these "arguments"...and your not the first to have possibly gotten confused by his delivery. Sometimes Paul doesnt demarkate between the nominal believer and the true grace possessor in a smooth transistion. Paul speaks extemporaneously and in doing so he has many "asides" which are literally commentary tangental to the subject. Its his style.
You wont go wrong listening to Paul Washer
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 8/21/2009 11:52:21 AM
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Any of you listen to Tim Conway?Fantastic preacher too,he is a friend of Paul Washer.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 8/23/2009 9:32:39 PM
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i deeply respect paul washer. he lead me, thru watching his youth conference video on youtube, to repentance. i thought i was saved, but i was living like the world, and in the world, as was of the world. paul revealed the truth of the Word of God to me for the first time 2 years ago. God bless him!
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 8/24/2009 9:26:19 PM
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There are so many threads here, I could not possibly read them all in one setting. I'm so encouraged, as some have said, that there are actually so many people out there who are blessed by Paul's message.
Am I the only one, or are there others of you that get such a spiritual quaking inside, for lack of better terms, when Paul prays? I've watched a number of his videos, wow. When that guy prays, heaven just comes down. My spirit gets soooo blessed. I know he easily touches God when he prays. He could pray for me any time he wanted too. \o/
I think his theology is straight Biblical and much needed in this hour of peril. Thank God for Paul Washer, and those like Him. You have all blessed and encouraged me today. Thank you.
All His best,
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 8/27/2009 4:09:29 PM
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There are so many threads here, I could not possibly read them all in one setting. I'm so encouraged, as some have said, that there are actually so many people out there who are blessed by Paul's message.
Am I the only one, or are there others of you that get such a spiritual quaking inside, for lack of better terms, when Paul prays? I've watched a number of his videos, wow. When that guy prays, heaven just comes down. My spirit gets soooo blessed. I know he easily touches God when he prays. He could pray for me any time he wanted too. \o/
I think his theology is straight Biblical and much needed in this hour of peril. Thank God for Paul Washer, and those like Him. You have all blessed and encouraged me today. Thank you.
All His best,
Lahry
Paul Washer is perhaps my favorite preacher(he is fighting spurgeon and John MacArthur..lol),and but let's remember that he too is a sinful man.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 8/29/2009 11:16:08 AM
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He never claims perfection. In fact, I find him quite transparent about his personal short comings.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 8/29/2009 12:19:01 PM
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I'm sure Paul Washer would agree with me that sinless perfectionism is a false doctrine and straight out unbiblical. With that said, we are called to live holy lives but the holy life we are called to live is not referring to sinless perfectionism. On the contrary, holy living simply refers to our attitude and actions before Jesus Christ. Being holy means following after Jesus Christ with humbleness and humility.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 3/1/2010 8:58:28 PM
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the question i want to ask paul is he perfect now we all know that he is not perfect, we'll all still have sin on the day of Christ return, so why is paul expecting perfection from other people, i want to encourage him to read Matthew 18:23-30 there's alot of interesting stuff he could gather from these verses because if he's expecting perfection from others God is expecting it from him
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 3/1/2010 9:11:26 PM
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we are in the world but not of it, we dress in clothes, drive our cars we do all of this but what the Bible is talking about is the attitudes of our hearts like forgiveness, love, joy. Paul washer takes all these scriptures and take them and puts them into a condemning message. God forgave him of his sins, shouldnt he forgive others of their sins. Thats what it says in Matthew 18 if God forgave him of lying should he be gracious towards liars, if God forgave him of adultery shouldnt he be gracious towardds adulters. This is how the world knows that we are his disciples, from our love for one another, not by the condemnation of this mans message. My Bible says that the letter kills but its the Spirit that gives life
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 4/7/2010 1:05:58 AM
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I heard a Paul Washer Sermon earlier today for the first time, liked it, and felt intrigued by his straight ahead style. Then I came home and listened with my wife to him on You Tube. She never had heard him. A few minutes into it, the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit gave her a word of knowledge and told her he was going to start talking about Joel Osteen and truly a few seconds later, Paul Washer began to criticize Joel. This led to a serious discussion between my wife and I and I must say, I undoubtedly believe God spoke to her.
It says clearly in the Bible that we are not to judge another man's servant. Mr. Washer should not be naming any names at all in his sermons. Doing so is clearly not love, not even "tough love" as some may call it. This is bashing and trashing any way you cut it. Be reminded that Jesus Himself says "Love is the greatest and most important commandment" period. It's a very sobering thought that you could burn yourself alive as a sacrifice, but if it wasn't done in love, it was utterly meaningless and to no avail. If Mr. Washer truly feels passionate, compelled, and led by God to correct Joel Osteen, the Godly thing to do is to contact Mr. Osteen in private and say something to the effect of "brother, you are really going astray in this area and here is why ...". The Bible says that "Love covers" and "does not expose" sin especially in the manner that Mr. Washer has chosen (if in fact Mr. Osteen is really committing any sin by the manner of which he preaches). We as Christians must trust that the power and will of God Himself will remove false prophets from the body of Christ, and not by the power of men, strife, flesh, or intellect. Men or preachers are not to exalt themselves by policing the body of Christ. "Saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom". Jeremiah 9:23 We as Christians are assigned to do one thing and that is to preach the Gospel. Preach Christ and good doctrine. Cast out devils and lay hands on the sick. It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible to inspect other people's ministries. It says "Do not sow strife among the brethren" or divide the Body. Be careful and beware of the seduction of preacher bashing. God is firmly against this and their will be consequences. Please be careful and consider this.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 4/7/2010 1:19:59 AM
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You might want to read this thread.
http://faithcommunitynetwork.com/m_73687/mpage_1/tm.htm
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 4/7/2010 7:56:08 AM
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ORIGINAL: awdevore
I heard a Paul Washer Sermon earlier today for the first time, liked it, and felt intrigued by his straight ahead style. Then I came home and listened with my wife to him on You Tube. She never had heard him. A few minutes into it, the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit gave her a word of knowledge and told her he was going to start talking about Joel Osteen and truly a few seconds later, Paul Washer began to criticize Joel. This led to a serious discussion between my wife and I and I must say, I undoubtedly believe God spoke to her.
It says clearly in the Bible that we are not to judge another man's servant. Mr. Washer should not be naming any names at all in his sermons. Doing so is clearly not love, not even "tough love" as some may call it. This is bashing and trashing any way you cut it. Be reminded that Jesus Himself says "Love is the greatest and most important commandment" period. It's a very sobering thought that you could burn yourself alive as a sacrifice, but if it wasn't done in love, it was utterly meaningless and to no avail. If Mr. Washer truly feels passionate, compelled, and led by God to correct Joel Osteen, the Godly thing to do is to contact Mr. Osteen in private and say something to the effect of "brother, you are really going astray in this area and here is why ...". The Bible says that "Love covers" and "does not expose" sin especially in the manner that Mr. Washer has chosen (if in fact Mr. Osteen is really committing any sin by the manner of which he preaches). We as Christians must trust that the power and will of God Himself will remove false prophets from the body of Christ, and not by the power of men, strife, flesh, or intellect. Men or preachers are not to exalt themselves by policing the body of Christ. "Saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom". Jeremiah 9:23 We as Christians are assigned to do one thing and that is to preach the Gospel. Preach Christ and good doctrine. Cast out devils and lay hands on the sick. It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible to inspect other people's ministries. It says "Do not sow strife among the brethren" or divide the Body. Be careful and beware of the seduction of preacher bashing. God is firmly against this and their will be consequences. Please be careful and consider this.
I completely agree with you, but as Steph said, famous ministers/ministries are a target here.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 4/7/2010 9:14:35 AM
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False teaching is a target here.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 4/7/2010 9:17:11 AM
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ORIGINAL: awdevore
I heard a Paul Washer Sermon earlier today for the first time, liked it, and felt intrigued by his straight ahead style. Then I came home and listened with my wife to him on You Tube. She never had heard him. A few minutes into it, the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit gave her a word of knowledge and told her he was going to start talking about Joel Osteen and truly a few seconds later, Paul Washer began to criticize Joel. This led to a serious discussion between my wife and I and I must say, I undoubtedly believe God spoke to her.
It says clearly in the Bible that we are not to judge another man's servant. Mr. Washer should not be naming any names at all in his sermons. Doing so is clearly not love, not even "tough love" as some may call it. This is bashing and trashing any way you cut it. Be reminded that Jesus Himself says "Love is the greatest and most important commandment" period. It's a very sobering thought that you could burn yourself alive as a sacrifice, but if it wasn't done in love, it was utterly meaningless and to no avail. If Mr. Washer truly feels passionate, compelled, and led by God to correct Joel Osteen, the Godly thing to do is to contact Mr. Osteen in private and say something to the effect of "brother, you are really going astray in this area and here is why ...". The Bible says that "Love covers" and "does not expose" sin especially in the manner that Mr. Washer has chosen (if in fact Mr. Osteen is really committing any sin by the manner of which he preaches). We as Christians must trust that the power and will of God Himself will remove false prophets from the body of Christ, and not by the power of men, strife, flesh, or intellect. Men or preachers are not to exalt themselves by policing the body of Christ. "Saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom". Jeremiah 9:23 We as Christians are assigned to do one thing and that is to preach the Gospel. Preach Christ and good doctrine. Cast out devils and lay hands on the sick. It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible to inspect other people's ministries. It says "Do not sow strife among the brethren" or divide the Body. Be careful and beware of the seduction of preacher bashing. God is firmly against this and their will be consequences. Please be careful and consider this.
So its ok for you to call out Paul Washer by name for calling out Joel Osteen by name. 
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