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RE: World of Warcraft - 6/22/2010 12:06:43 PM
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Restored_Heart
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Upon looking for Glyphs, couldn't find much.... here is a link to my talents page....
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I know that lots of people are able to go all holy and be fine, but I never have. :)
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RE: World of Warcraft - 6/22/2010 1:03:10 PM
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Are there any glyphs you can get to reduce cool down? My healers are Disc/Holy, which sucks mana, but feels stronger healing to me. I tried straight holy, but it was harder for me to keep up with healing. My style of healing is more preventative (sheild the clothies, mend the tanks, super heal the main tank)... but I haven't done much raids....
I'm exactly the same, which is why I was discipline from day 1. Disc was great for 5mans and I even did alright in VOA and OS, but I found I couldn't raid heal for anything in an ICC 10 or 25. Especially in 25. So, my idea was to respec as holy because it was supposed to be so much better for raid heals...Circle of Healing and improved renew. I'm thinking that I need to stack more haste now that I'm holy. I was stacking spirit as much as possible as disc. /shrug
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RE: World of Warcraft - 6/22/2010 2:47:19 PM
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Well, at least 2 accounts of guildies on one of my servers has been hacked in the last 2-3 weeks. I got back the junk they took from the GB, which was not much, we only have junk in there right now. But one of the stolen toons has been farming Hellfire Ramparts for at least 2 weeks.
I locked down GB access to the one, but then the guy told me that the toon was on his wife's account and now I need to lock down access to the GB for a few more.
However, it seems to be the M.O. of these farmers to not loot the GB because that gives very little return and they would more quickly get caught. Instead they are hijacking the toon, using them to farm for a while, then selling everything it has and abandoning it. Or at least that is what I have been told by some others.
Man, I hate those {insert country of origin here} gold farmers.
Would everyone PLEASE stop buying gold? Sheesh.
Ok, venting done.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 6/22/2010 3:06:04 PM
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Well, at least 2 accounts of guildies on one of my servers has been hacked in the last 2-3 weeks. I got back the junk they took from the GB, which was not much, we only have junk in there right now. But one of the stolen toons has been farming Hellfire Ramparts for at least 2 weeks.
I locked down GB access to the one, but then the guy told me that the toon was on his wife's account and now I need to lock down access to the GB for a few more.
However, it seems to be the M.O. of these farmers to not loot the GB because that gives very little return and they would more quickly get caught. Instead they are hijacking the toon, using them to farm for a while, then selling everything it has and abandoning it. Or at least that is what I have been told by some others.
Man, I hate those {insert country of origin here} gold farmers.
Would everyone PLEASE stop buying gold? Sheesh.
Ok, venting done.
Harsh! I got hacked a few years back during BC expansion time and can definitely sympathize. I was a prime target for hacking though because back then I rolled without virus protect and I think I picked up a keylogger off of Thottbot which got my account. It hasn't happened since. I am not sure how other people get hacked but I have my suspicions about anyone I don't know that whispers me in game. I never answer them.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 6/22/2010 9:09:15 PM
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authenticators for the win..or at least to make it harder for hackers.
Anyhow, to the priest question. Ellinor on Earthen Ring is Disc for pvp and Holy for dungeons and 10 man. I have never done icc aside from the 5 man dungeons so I have no advice there. I always use PW shield on the tank whenever it is up. It also give the shielded person a nifty speed boost. I don't have a specific rotation. Mostly I is shield the Melee players, keep a hot on the tank, use group heals as the become available just before they are going to take AOE damage. Also, save the hymn for the bosses. As long as you don't take damage, it can work wonders. Take damage and it is wasted. Haste is a good thing for those, Ohmygosh the tank is almost dead-moments. Always let your tank know if you are getting behind since most have some sort of last resort buffer to buy you a little time to catch up. Being able to talk to each other in a raid is great. Just remember that the tank's health up is priority, even if dps fusses a bit.
As far as mana goes, if you are going down the holy tree, spirit gear is important. Restored, once you get to 80 and get some spirit gear mana won't be as much of an issue. Don't gem for spirit. Gem for spell power! Some haste is good as well.
If you look on Armory make sure you check which gear I have on. I have on Crit gear for pvp and Spirit gear for holy healing. If I go into a dungeon in my pvp crit gear I go OOM.
And my first run thru the Culling of Stratholm I almost had a hissy fit. Once you get some good gear on it becomes much easier.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 6/30/2010 1:06:06 PM
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Yeah, I really should get an authenticator.
The problem I have with PW:S as holy is the cooldown takes forever. I find myself getting out of rotation if I have to think about the PW:S CD among all the other heals I gotta throw. POM/renew the tank, renew each of the melee...dang, the mage just got crit to 10% health, gotta throw a lesser heal and a renew on him...dang, now the tank is down below 25%, POM PW:S renew...oops, just lost another rogue (or was it the druid?)...AAAHHHH! AOE just crit all the casters! Dot, dot, dot...hey check it out: I'm Spirit of Redemption again. *sigh*
*bang head against computer desk*
...and the lightwell sits there untouched...
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/1/2010 1:56:53 PM
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that's your problem...lightwell is not such a hot item. When everyone starts to go down, shield the tank and use circle of healing, heals those near the tank. The heal that bounces around and if you have time, whatever I have on key #9 that heals the party, but has a slow casting time (thank goodness I have some haste). But if it is REALLY tough in a boss fight, the hymn will pull your butts out of the fire, so long as you don't take damage.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/1/2010 1:59:26 PM
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I would actually suggest to NOT put the talent point in lightwell, put it somewhere else if you can. It isn't worth it.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/3/2010 7:54:45 PM
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Eep, I was healing the holiday dungeon with a Disc priest and the shields were taking awhile to be cast. My latency was over 600...EeP.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/5/2010 10:21:04 PM
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So...what is World of Warcraft all about?
Is it like RuneScape, back in 2004 or 2005 my nephews got me to sign up to this runescape, I called myself rustyrelic, I never found my nephews when playing the game but I did end up being robbed alot and dying.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/6/2010 11:52:30 AM
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There is a trial version, that really truly does let you play before you decide to buy. If you don't like getting robbed and killed then sign up for a regular server. There are pvp servers where the two factions, Horde or Alliance, can take each other out almost anywhere in the game. On a regular server there are designated areas to fight other players. Otherwise it is mostly questing, solo or in groups, to level up and get better gear. You can play it by yourself but I like the socializing that goes on with the game. I've friends and family and we meet to laugh, have adventures, etc. There are some servers where folks Role Play but there are only a few groups that actually pretend to be their character.
If you play the trial version and like it, some of us can advise you on any addons to download to make the game play even smoother, we can even tell you which servers we play on if you would like to chat with us in game. There are guilds you can join, where like minded players work together to level and get acheivements and gear up but I don't recommend joining one right off the bat. A good group can make the game a lot of fun, but just like in the rest of the world, there are groups that make ya wanna pull your hair out, too. 
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/7/2010 11:21:36 AM
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OK, you brought up addons, so which addons do people use? I will post mine when I get home from work tonight.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/7/2010 6:41:08 PM
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There is a trial version, that really truly does let you play before you decide to buy. If you don't like getting robbed and killed then sign up for a regular server. There are pvp servers where the two factions, Horde or Alliance, can take each other out almost anywhere in the game. On a regular server there are designated areas to fight other players. Otherwise it is mostly questing, solo or in groups, to level up and get better gear. You can play it by yourself but I like the socializing that goes on with the game. I've friends and family and we meet to laugh, have adventures, etc. There are some servers where folks Role Play but there are only a few groups that actually pretend to be their character.
If you play the trial version and like it, some of us can advise you on any addons to download to make the game play even smoother, we can even tell you which servers we play on if you would like to chat with us in game. There are guilds you can join, where like minded players work together to level and get acheivements and gear up but I don't recommend joining one right off the bat. A good group can make the game a lot of fun, but just like in the rest of the world, there are groups that make ya wanna pull your hair out, too.
Basically I'm fasting from playing video games because of some upcoming events related to a certain VSA competition this November
The last computer game I played was called Crazy Machines why such a simple game because Zelda and runscape 3d large scale landscapes are to much for me. I like games like tetris and chess.
World of Warcraft does this require a kill or be killed because if it does I'm a goner already. This kind of game you play is not for people like me.
Even though I do have some curiosity about it because people like neuronstatic are playing it and he has some great Christian reasoning.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/7/2010 6:42:33 PM
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I use Carbonite for finding mining nodes and the GPS and following quest lines. The game's user interface is almost as good though.
I like XPerl unit frames. It is great for setting up the raid frames for healing!
I use Altaholic so that I can see what I have in the bags and bank for all my toons and I can see what crafts fellow guildies can make. Awesome.
I use Recount to see how my dps or healing is doing and what attacks or heals I use most. Can play the game fine without it but when working with a new toon or a new weapon it's nice to use.
I have Gearscore so that I can see what level everyone has just so I know what to expect. A new level 80 will work harder than someone who's been end game for a long time. BTW, my 80's are only gear scored in between 4 and 5.2K. Could play fine without it.
I use Omen as a threat meter but the game interface does well so I could play fine without it. But then again, I don't play any tanks.
I tried Bad Kitty but I found it too distracting.
To talk to guldies I use Ventrilo, not the game talking system. I do hope they improve it when the next expansion comes out.
One thing I highly recommend if you are going to play in dungeons is Deadly Boss Mobs! It is great to let you know when the special attacks are coming up. Miss one of those attacks and the whole group dies. I always keep that up to date.
If i could only run one addon I would make it DBM (deadly boss mobs). The rest are just nice to have.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/8/2010 2:27:54 PM
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PeterD,
World of Warcraft is more of a "go do this thing for me" type of game. These are called quests. Many times the quests are to kill various animals and collect their parts... why some entity in the game needs a dozen bear tongues is beyond me, but I get rewarded to do it.
So most of the time there are quests and the quests often reveal more of the game lore, the stories behind the game. There are aspects of "kill or be killed", but typically you are destroying something evil, or at least really bad, or at least getting in the way of something that progresses the game lore.
An exception to this is PVP, or player vs player. In PVP areas and servers, you not only quest, but you take on other players in combat. It challenges skill and understanding of the type of character you are playing.
I like WoW because it does not glorify grotesque violence for the sake of satisfying an immature mind. But when there is violence, it serves a purpose to progress a story. Just like the destruction of armies and peoples in the Bible, war involves violence. I don't see WoW as glorifying violence, though some who are inclined may see it that way.
If anyone is interested, PM me and I will tell you all about how I see games like WoW as an evolution of board games like Risk and Tactics II
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/8/2010 4:05:16 PM
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I tried WoW, but there's no way I could play it. MMORPGs are too much of a life/time/money sink to be worth it. You play for years, level up, get gear, then have to /facepalm after doing the /age command. Too much of a waste. Wish I'd seen that earlier in my life, but I think everybody has to realize that on their own. For me, it took playing 2 solid years of Asheron's Call about ten years ago.
It's especially troubling when you maintain any kind of guild associations. Planning to attend those events/raids/etc has a nasty way of mixing up real life scheduling and priorities. Try explaining to someone that you can't do such-and-such because you're in the middle of something, and don't want to let down your internet friends. It's another reason why I won't play another real MMO. (will stick to the more casual end w/ friends or just single-player)
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/9/2010 8:04:27 AM
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I do have to agree with Nuclear_sidewalk about the time sink. If you don't have time don't even get started. The time I spend on the game is time I don't spend watching television. It is time I spend having adventures with family and friends online. Some guilds do insist that you show up for their events but some guilds don't. Neuron and I are in a guild that remembers that WoW is just a game, not real life. We meet for a schedualed event once a week but noone gets shunned if they can't make it.
The worst thing about WoW is the live chat. Some folks will be terribly rude and say things they would never say in person because it is so easy to hide behind a pretend character. But you can /ignore or turn off the chat feature all together.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/9/2010 2:28:57 PM
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As far as playing solo/casual, I seem to do a lot of solo and casual play. I think this is mostly because I spend more time exploring the game, learning the lore, and going after achievements, and those kinds of things don't appeal to a lot of people.
Regarding chat, yeah, some people (usually the younger crowd and that includes 25 and below) like to be foul and rude, as immature brats often are. The /ignore works wonders for that, and if they get too much, I simply report them to the GMs.
The most important thing to remember is that if chat gets too much, turn off general, trade, and local defense, as these are automatically connected when you login unless you turn them off.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/10/2010 10:22:58 AM
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Most guilds these days remember WoW is a game. I am a member of two guilds, the main the the lowbies. Our main does a raid every Friday or Saturday night, but it works like this - Sign up starts at 10pm server time (Which is like 7pm for me), the raid starts at 10:30pm. We have about 100 people in our guild (between mains and alt) plus we are friends with other guilds, so you sign up if you want to run, and if you dont we can get someone else.
Addons-
We raid, so we use vent.
I use Omen, Recount, Bagnon, Titan Bar, DBM, Outfitter(because my main is a resto/elem shammy), X-Perl. I've used things for finding nodes in the past, but they weren't anything wonderful so I got rid of them
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/13/2010 8:25:10 PM
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JHerr...as to the addons, I use DBM, Recount, Atlas Loot, Gearscore and the wardrobe one that lets you change spec gear with one button. Other than that, I haven't found much I could live without. Auctioneer is kinda kewl but not necessary.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/13/2010 10:07:42 PM
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I use auctionator, it makes my selling a lot easier. I will randomly spend an hour mining and then turn around and sell it at the auction house, instead of me having to decide what to sell it at, auctionator will automatically put in a price.
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/17/2010 8:22:37 AM
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Hey everyone,
I'm a longtime WoW player and really consider it my favorite hobby. I just got back home from about 10 months volunteering abroad and am getting back into the game. But, really, I want to do more with it than I did in the past.
Here's what I mean: I really want to glorify God whether I'm in-game or out and to share the Gospel with people who may not hear it otherwise. I believe many members of the WoW community don't really have a clue as to what life with Jesus Christ really looks like. I want to help show them this, not only through my actions in game (trying to be kind, helpful, patient, encouraging) but also with my words, so they know that I'm not just a good guy for no reason, but that God is the reason for my joy.
I'm looking for some help from you for crafting a short message that I can give at the end of my random dungeon runs that lets people know that there is Someone who cares about them so deeply that He gave his life, and now lives to bring them into an amazingly powerful relationship with Him. I'd then give an email address where they could contact me for whatever reason, whether it's for more info or to debate or to flame me.
I think that the Holy Spirit would really work through something like this, but I also realize that the wording of the message is very important; so if you have any input, let me hear it!
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/17/2010 2:00:45 PM
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I would advise against it. It may even be against TOS. Mostly you'll just get trolls responding to your message. On the other hand, if people get to know and respect you in game, then you can chat with them a bit about your beliefs. Until people get to know your character they really could care less about your faith. Some will even get mad at you for bringing it up.
So, it had really be Spirit led or you are wasting your time. Why invite flaming?
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RE: World of Warcraft - 7/27/2010 1:14:40 PM
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I would advise against it. It may even be against TOS. Mostly you'll just get trolls responding to your message. On the other hand, if people get to know and respect you in game, then you can chat with them a bit about your beliefs. Until people get to know your character they really could care less about your faith. Some will even get mad at you for bringing it up.
So, it had really be Spirit led or you are wasting your time. Why invite flaming?
Sadly, this is the case. I wish it were easier to be a light for The Light in Azeroth. I think the dungeon group finder tool makes it even more difficult to create relationships with people in the game. You almost never get grouped with someone from your own realm and people don't want to waste time chatting in groups...they just wanna get their emblems and get out of there. Creating relationships now is all about raiding or getting hooked up with a good guild...probably because you have a friend IRL in that guild that recruited you to join them.
As for me, I haven't had time to play recently and have begun to lag way behind my friends and family that play (gear-wise). Perhaps I'll be able to catch up in the expansion, but I just don't know. My bro-in-law just finished levelling his 14th toon to 80 and already has the toon completely decked-out in purples...most level 219+. Oh well.
As a side note, a thread I was posting to in the music folder was just cut-off because it reached 1500+ posts and they had to start a new one. That will probably happen to this one soon as well, though I hope it doesn't. I really enjoy being able to go back in the thread and see what was happening in the game at different times over the years.
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