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THE GENEOLOGY OF ADAM IN GENESIS - 8/23/2008 3:01:55 PM
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PROPHETSONG
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Hi guys I found this teaching on youtube from Chuck missler. He found something totally awesome in Genesis check it out. Just hit the link
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RE: THE GENEOLOGY OF ADAM IN GENESIS - 8/23/2008 4:01:07 PM
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MrFribbles
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His take on the names is off. I don't know what Bible dictionary he's looking at, but, for example, the one I'm looking at says Adam means "red," and that Seth means "compensation."
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RE: THE GENEOLOGY OF ADAM IN GENESIS - 8/23/2008 6:03:05 PM
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very cool vid.
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RE: THE GENEOLOGY OF ADAM IN GENESIS - 8/25/2008 3:57:33 PM
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Dubya
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ORIGINAL: MrFribbles
His take on the names is off. I don't know what Bible dictionary he's looking at, but, for example, the one I'm looking at says Adam means "red," and that Seth means "compensation."
I have never heard Adam called "red". Out of curiosity, what dictionary are you using? I also question your definition of Seth.
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RE: THE GENEOLOGY OF ADAM IN GENESIS - 8/25/2008 4:38:39 PM
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Dubya
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I have never heard Adam called "red". Out of curiosity, what dictionary are you using? I also question your definition of Seth.
Here's where I got my info.
http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=0121&version=nas
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http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=08352&version=nas
Note that "first man" was also a choice in your lexicon for Adam. You will get a fuller description if you look at Strong's 120 (linked from your link).
Also, if you click on the word origin for Seth (Strong's 07896) you will see "appoint" as one of the choices.
Better still is the definition in the text of the Bible itself: "And Adam had relations with his wife again; and she gave birth to a son, and named him Seth, for, she said, "God has appointed me another offspring in place of Abel; for Cain killed him."" Genesis 4:25
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RE: THE GENEOLOGY OF ADAM IN GENESIS - 8/25/2008 6:23:14 PM
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MrFribbles
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Note that "first man" was also a choice in your lexicon for Adam. You will get a fuller description if you look at Strong's 120 (linked from your link).
It says it has the same word origin as S120, not that it is the same word. Further, "first man" seems to be a description of who Adam was, not what his name meant. You'll notice in the definition of Seth that it says "3rd son of Adam," which I don't think either of us would think is one of the literal definitions. ; )
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Also, if you click on the word origin for Seth (Strong's 07896) you will see "appoint" as one of the choices.
That is addressing the word of origin, which has more meanings than just "appoint." If this pastor wants to make conclusions from a name's word-origin in the Hebrew, I don't think it's right to pick and choose which meanings he wants to use to fit his message.
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RE: THE GENEOLOGY OF ADAM IN GENESIS - 8/25/2008 9:40:32 PM
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It says it has the same word origin as S120, not that it is the same word. Further, "first man" seems to be a description of who Adam was, not what his name meant. You'll notice in the definition of Seth that it says "3rd son of Adam," which I don't think either of us would think is one of the literal definitions. ; )
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addressing the word of origin, which has more meanings than just "appoint." If this pastor wants to make conclusions from a name's word-origin in the Hebrew, I don't think it's right to pick and choose which meanings he wants to use to fit his message.
Sorry Mr. Fribbles. The words for Strong's numbers 119, 120 1nd 121 are identical, not just having the same origin. They are homographs.
Your argument against the use of Adam in this way is the same argument you have used against the shadows.
I can verify:
Seth - appoint
Enos - mortal man (I am not sure I would use just Mortal)
Jared - Descent
Enoch - dedicated, train up (Maybe loosely teaching)
Noah - rest
I cannot verify the rest:
Cainan - possession, nest
Mahalaleel - praise of God
Methuselah - man of the sword or dart
Lamech - powerful
So I am unwilling to use it anecdotally until I can personally validate it.
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